What happens when you know God is speaking, but the timing still is not right?

In the Season 1 finale of The Shepherd’s Sanctuary, Dr. Jevon Goode sits down with his spiritual son, Pastor Marcus Tankard, for a deeply personal conversation about prayer, timing, spiritual covering, accountability, and learning not to move ahead of God.

Pastor Marcus shares why prayer culture has to begin with the leader and why intercession cannot simply be outsourced. The conversation also explores the role of spiritual fathers and mothers, the importance of having trusted voices who can see your blind spots, and why healthy spiritual relationships should be built around purpose rather than popularity.

Marcus also shares a personal story about wanting to make a major move before the timing was right, and how trusted spiritual guidance helped him wait until the right season came.

This episode is for anyone trying to discern what God is saying, when to move, when to wait, and who should have permission to speak into the decisions that shape your life, family, ministry, and future.

Creativity, Character & Community in the Church

What happens when a church has plenty of gifted people, but not enough structure, trust, or healthy community around the gift?

In Episode 4 of The Shepherd’s Sanctuary, Dr. Jevon Goode sits down with Robert Dickens Jr. for a practical conversation about creativity, character, community, and the role creatives play in the Church.

They discuss why creativity extends beyond Sunday morning, why the Church needs different expressions of God’s creativity, and what can happen when gifts, ideas, and people are operating without structure.

The conversation also gets honest about the relationship between pastors and creatives, including musicians, compensation, trust, safe ministry environments, integrity, and the importance of building community before reducing the relationship to a paycheck.

You’ll also hear why being gifted is not enough. Creativity still needs character, order, health, and the courage to bring ideas into reality.

If you’re a pastor, musician, worship leader, creative director, designer, administrator, or ministry creative, this conversation is for you.

The Shepherd’s Sanctuary

What do you do when God calls you beyond what people think you are supposed to be?

In this episode of The Shepherd’s Sanctuary, Dr. Jevon Goode sits down with Dr. Cynthia P. McDonald for an honest conversation about calling, identity, leadership, and the realities women often face in ministry.

Dr. McDonald shares her journey of being called to preach at 15, navigating expectations as a woman pastor, and learning how to stay aligned with God without constantly trying to prove herself to people. The conversation also moves into administration, obedience, spiritual formation, authenticity, and the difference between performing in ministry and truly shepherding people.

This episode is for women in ministry, pastors, emerging leaders, and anyone who has ever had to move beyond the expectations of others to fully walk in what God called them to do.

Sometimes the call of God will take you beyond the “supposed to.”