The Permissionless Apprentice — Jalil Wahdatehagh (Visualize Value)
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The Permissionless Apprentice — Jalil Wahdatehagh (Visualize Value)
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Jalil Wahdatehagh built every major system behind Visualize Value — Checks, Opepen, MINT protocol. But when AI coding tools let his creative partner Jack Butcher start shipping prototypes, Jalil hit an identity crisis: "I considered stopping and throwing everything away."
Then Claude Code arrived in the terminal and felt like home.
From a small village in Germany to reading the CryptoPunks contract on Etherscan, from the darkest months of questioning his craft to building EVM.NOW in a three-week sprint — this is a conversation about what happens when infinite possibility becomes creative paralysis, and how you find your way back to betting on one thing.
In this episode:
- The Permissionless Apprentice — how Jalil built his way into VV without asking
- Why the CryptoPunks contract (250 lines of code) changed everything
- The identity crisis when Jack learned to vibe code
- "Betting on something — that's what's hard now"
- EVM.NOW — a next-generation block explorer
- Why AI agents will love Visualize Value's art
- The Marfa exercise — Claude writes a white paper from a 70-line contract
Guest: Jalil Wahdatehagh (@jalilwahdat)
Host: Seth Goldstein (@seth)
Links:
https://letsvibe.fm/episodes/6
https://evm.now
https://github.com/visualizevalue
https://opepen.art
