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The Human Factor Podcast

The Human Factor Podcast

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Summary
The Human Factor Podcast series, hosted by Michael Esau (Global HCM Value Advisory) and Simon Humphreys (Global HCM Solution Advisory), explores human capital management topics, trends, challenges, and opportunities facing organizations today. Listen as Michael and Simon interview guests including HR leaders, influencers, experts, authors, and advisors from inside and outside of the SAP ecosystem about their insights, experiences, and guidance on relevant topics from the world of work. Each episode features detailed discussions on the topics and themes that challenge and inspire us every day and their impact on the success and sustainability of our organizations. All episodes are available via popular podcast platforms including Apple Podcasts and Spotify. https://www.sap.com/products/hcm.htmlSAP SE Economics
Episodes
  • The Human Factor Podcast Episode 78: From Transactional Excellence to Intelligent Service Delivery
    16 Oct 2026

    In this episode, we speak with Claire Meadows from Mitie about the evolution from transactional excellence to intelligent service delivery, and how AI is reshaping processes, workforce design, skills, and the future of operational performance.


    In this episode of The Human Factor Podcast, we’re joined by Claire Meadows from Mitie to explore how organisations are moving from transactional excellence to intelligent service delivery. As AI reshapes the way services are designed, delivered, and experienced, we discuss how leaders can redesign processes, augment human work, and turn innovation into meaningful operational impact.


    Claire shares practical insights on the evolution of service delivery, the challenges of execution, and where AI is already driving value at scale. We also examine the critical role HR plays in workforce design, skills development, and helping organisations adapt as AI transforms the way work gets done.


    Keywords: SAP, AI, SuccessFactors, Intelligent Service Delivery, Operational Excellence, Workforce Transformation, Future of Work

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    1 hr and 4 min
  • The Human Factor Podcast Episode 77: The Hidden Forces Shaping Organisational Change with Nicholas Toko
    18 Sep 2026

    In this episode, we speak with Nicholas Toko about how Jungian psychology can help leaders better understand culture, resistance and organisational change.


    In Episode 77 of The Human Factor Podcast, we explore the hidden forces that shape organisational culture and why lasting change often depends on more than new technologies, processes or operating models.

    Joining us is Nicholas Toko, organisational effectiveness consultant, transformation leader and Jungian Analyst-in-training. Together, we discuss how Jungian psychology can help leaders better understand the unconscious beliefs, assumptions and patterns that influence behaviour across teams and organisations.

    We explore the organisational unconscious, the deeper drivers of resistance to change, and why identity, meaning and self-awareness play such an important role in successful transformation. Nicholas also shares insights into how leaders can create the conditions for genuine commitment to change in an era of AI, disruption and continuous transformation.


    Keywords: Change, Culture, Leadership, Transformation, Psychology, Resistance, Awareness, Behaviour

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    1 hr and 12 min
  • The Human Factor Podcast Episode 76: Building from Within: The Discipline Behind Internal Talent Development with Cecilia Sandberg
    18 Aug 2026

    In episode 76 of The Human Factor Podcast, we explore what it really takes to build talent from within and why internal talent development requires far more than a commitment to promoting from within.

    Many organisations say they believe in developing their people, but far fewer have the systems, leadership expectations, and organisational structures in place to make that belief a reality. In large, global growth organisations, internal talent development is a long-term strategic choice that can shape leadership continuity, cultural coherence, capability depth, and resilience in the face of constant change.

    Joining us is Cecilia Sandberg, Senior Vice President, HR at Atlas Copco Group. Together, we explore what it means to build from within in a decentralised, engineering led organisation with a significant global workforce and a strong growth trajectory.

    Throughout the conversation, we discuss how organisations can turn internal development from a philosophy into a disciplined system, what effective succession planning looks like in practice, and how leaders can be supported and held accountable for developing others. Cecilia also shares insights into the role of mentoring, mobility, structured development, and other reinforcement mechanisms, as well as how organisations can balance internal promotion with the need for fresh perspectives and diversity of thought.

    We also explore how organisations can measure whether their talent development model is actually working, the tension between long-term development and short-term business pressures, and where leaders should begin if they want to take internal talent development more seriously.

    If you're looking to strengthen your talent strategy, build stronger leadership pipelines, and create an organisation where people can grow from within, this episode offers valuable insights and practical takeaways.

    Keywords: Talent, Leadership, Development, Mentoring, Growth, Workforce, Progression


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    1 hr and 10 min
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