In this episode of The Hardest Part, Kieron Banerji sits down with Dream Nails to unpack the making of their track “The Information,” a song that went through multiple versions and nearly did not make the album.

The band explain how the track began as free writing for a completely different idea before evolving through co-writing, shifting styles, and eventually returning to their post-punk sound with new hooks in place. The line “I’m gonna download all the information” became the one constant, anchoring the song even as everything else changed.

They talk about using stream of consciousness writing to explore the idea of wanting to experience everything at once, and how working together in real time helped them push through doubt and finish the track with renewed energy and humor.

The episode ends with an exclusive acoustic performance of the song recorded specially for the show.

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What happens when two ideas don't fit — until they finally do? What does that process actually look like?

In this episode of The Hardest Part, Kieron Banerji is joined by Ulrika Spacek to break down the making of their track “Weights and Measures.”

The song began as two completely separate pieces. One was built around a heavy fuzz section. The other drew on early 2010s London electronic textures. For a long time, they simply would not work together. Bringing them into one track meant shifting tempos, adjusting pitch, and committing to the contrast rather than smoothing it out.

The band talk through their collaborative writing process, building ideas from a shared sample bank and starting with drum sketches recorded remotely. They unpack the technical challenges of blending digital and analog sounds, recreating MIDI parts, and pushing themselves beyond what felt comfortable.

They also reflect on creative block and how time and collective thinking helped the song eventually find its shape. Despite being difficult to finish, it has become one of the tracks that means the most to them.

Guest: Ulrika Spacek

Track: “Weights and Measures”

Album: EXPO (2026)

Host: Kieron Banerji

Produced and Distributed by: Palm Tree Island

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How do you turn fear and anxiety into something creative? In this episode of The Hardest Part, Kieron Banerji sits down with UK band Chartreuse to unpack the story behind their song “I’m Losing It” — a deeply personal track written by vocalist Hattie following the news that she’d need major surgery at just 29, forcing her to relearn how to walk. Hattie shares how months of anxiety and fear about becoming a burden turned into a creative outpouring.

The band speaks candidly about the power of songwriting as emotional processing, how they instinctively built the song from a small demo, and how they recorded it with handmade tape loops in an Icelandic studio overlooking the ocean. They also reflect on burnout after their first record, how they reignited their creativity in a remote Yorkshire cottage, and why they now trust the flow of collaboration. This episode ends with an exclusive live acoustic version of “I’m Losing It,” recorded backstage at Bush Hall.

Guest: Chartreuse

Host and Executive Producer: Kieron Banerji

Show Mixed and Produced by: Kieron Banerji

Mix Engineer: Max Walker

Creative: Callum Baker Recorded at Bush Hall, London.

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