The Good Wife Season 6 Episode 12, "The Debate," finds Alicia Florrick on the state's attorney debate stage just as a jury reaches a verdict in the Cole Willis case, a police killing the show ties directly to Ferguson. Jason and Marissa set the 2014 timeline, then dig into whether The Good Wife earned the right to tell this story. Along the way: Eli and Nora's standout car conversation, a kitchen staffer who calls out Alicia and Frank Prady, and Peter's reunion with Pastor Isaiah, who asks whether he wants to be a good man. Plus Chris Matthews wandering the set, David Lee raising Neil Gross's divorce settlement to $100 million, and an awkward Johnny Elfman talk that Jason and Marissa have a lot to say about.

04:11 – Setting the timeline: Ferguson, Michael Brown, and when this episode was written versus when it aired

16:41 – The Cole Willis footage and Alicia's chaotic debate prep

25:52 – Eli and Nora in the car: "Am I your Black shield for the night?"

51:27 – A kitchen staffer calls out two white candidates debating race

57:37 – Peter and Pastor Isaiah: good man or effective man?

1:19:11 – David Lee is back, and Alicia's "if I were a man" moment

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Cupertino Season 1 Episode 2, Vik and Bo, puts Price, Siffre and Associates to work before the office even has walls. Coder Vik Malhotra climbs out a bathroom window mid-deposition and lands in Michael Price and Olivia Siffre’s lap, blamed for a drone accident that killed a man at a light show. Moonchaser wants to pin it on him, but fake cops, a convenient drug find, and a cheaper battery tell a different story. Meanwhile, Christy fields calls from Bo, a mystery client with deep pockets and a secret the team is not ready for. Plus Joe Morton’s Bayard makes Michael an offer, and Olivia tracks down Busy Philipps’ Natalia Boutella at a very strange party.

00:00 – Intro and why Cupertino is getting its own feed

04:37 – Vik’s deposition escape and the Moonchaser drone case

21:29 – Olivia turns the CEO’s ego against him

25:16 – Christy takes a call from a mystery client named Bo

36:27 – A contract on the wall, a money hunt, and Michael’s dad

45:15 – Olivia crashes Natalia’s party

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Elsbeth Season 4 Episode 2, Death of a Playwright, takes the show to the New York theater scene, and Jason and Marissa are here for it. When celebrated playwright Richard Perrick dies, the rights to his work become a fight, and then the young winner of the Perrick playwriting award ends up dead at the bottom of a staircase. For once, Elsbeth Tascioni doesn’t show us the killer up front. This is a true whodunit, with a stacked guest cast including Nicholas Braun, Richard Thomas, John Doman, and Betsy Aidem, plus a cameo from Knicks star OG Anunoby. Back at the precinct, Captain Wagner is under pressure over a rising murder rate, and Detective Donnelly’s overtime habit catches up with her. Plus: Elsbeth’s mom is on the way.

00:00 – Intro, listener mail from Erica, and housekeeping

07:36 – Corrections: who’s playing Elsbeth’s mom, and the Smellsbeth ship

11:39 – A famous playwright dies and the guest cast arrives

24:24 – Elsbeth rolls up on a rickshaw and the investigation begins

30:48 – Wagner’s pep talk, the murder rate, and Donnelly’s overtime trouble

1:04:12 – A family secret blows the case wide open

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