Coming at you a day late this week, we're here to chat about podcasting, now that we're basically old pros (we aren't). Cliffs Notes: Our origin story (again); the awkwardness of the earliest days; tools and processes on a tiny budget; the social component; setting aside weekly time, even if we're not always "on"; our personal gateway podcasts; what we've learned about ourselves; the content actually being relevant; and our own recs (see below!).

Showmance
Uhh Yeah Dude
You're Welcome
Business Wars
Modern Love
Pop Culture Happy Hour
Strategy Hour
Working It Out

This week we're thrilled to share our conversation with Catherine Saunders from All the Best. We cover confidence, growing up with (and into) creativity, the weirdness of social media, the blissfulness of staying in your own lane, zig-zagging paths, vulnerability, flexing your creative muscles, finding your niche and so, so, so much more. It was such a treat to get to chat with her - this is a good one!

Follow Catherine on Instagram at @catsaunders.

Cliffs Notes: Continuing our redefinition tour; how to communicate what you do, and how that's different from the other people who do it; how your value prop evolves along with you and your career; audience, audience, audience; selling your value to your existing organization vs. selling your value as your own organization; turning a page-long cover letter into a sentence or two; the gift of realizing you don't have to be a pro at everything; poor fits (as a candidate and a hirer) - but also being fine with a not-perfect job because you want to, you know, pay your rent; learning more about ourselves and our paths, even in our terribly advanced years; a live exercise. (And, there's a worksheet to help you go through it on your own. Fill it out and let us know what you think!)