In this episode, Clay sits down with Marcus Flinders, founder of ADU America and the top ADU builder in northern Utah, to unpack his incredible journey from lawyer to million-dollar business owner in under a year.

Marcus shares the raw truth about his path to $2 million in sales volume across 12 projects in just 6 months of active marketing in Utah. But this success didn't come without lessons learned the hard way - including why he had to completely pivot from the Illinois market and start over.

What You'll Learn:

• Market Selection Mastery : The critical factors that make or break an ADU business, including municipality regulations, home values, and market awareness

• The Complete Sales System : Marcus breaks down his proven process from discovery calls to contract signing, including how to handle financing conversations and avoid common pitfalls

• Scaling Strategies : How to structure your team, implement systems, and maintain quality while growing rapidly

• Pricing Insights : Why Utah projects range from $200K to over $300K and how lot sizes and local regulations impact your average ticket

• Common Mistakes : The costly errors Marcus made early on and how he restructured his approach to eliminate time-wasters and improve close rates

Key Takeaways:

• Why scheduling two appointments from every sales meeting is crucial
• The importance of getting financial commitments early in the process
• How to identify markets ripe for ADU development
• The difference between accessory dwelling units and accessory structures
• Why builder quality and sales expertise must go hand-in-hand

Whether you're considering starting an ADU business, struggling to scale your existing operation, or simply curious about this booming industry, Marcus provides actionable insights from someone who's successfully navigated the challenges and built a thriving business from scratch.

Connect with Marcus:
Email: marcusf@aduamerica.com
Website: adu-america.com

In this episode, Clay sits down with Christina Henderson, founder of The ADU Sales Coach and a 25-year veteran of the home building industry, to break down the exact sales system that's helping ADU builders across the country close more deals and avoid the common pitfalls that kill sales.

What You'll Learn:

• The 3 Commitment Stages: How to identify whether your prospect is curious, committed, or ready to buy (and why speaking the wrong language kills your sale)

• The 12 Decisions Framework: The specific decisions every ADU buyer must make before they'll sign a contract - and how to close each one systematically

• Avoiding the "Sales Graveyard": Why financing is where most ADU deals go to die, and Christina's proven talk tracks for live-transferring prospects to lenders while staying in control of the process

• The Discovery Call Strategy: How a 45-minute virtual consultation can qualify prospects and prevent wasted site visits with tire-kickers

• One-Visit Close System: The exact process for presenting quotes, handling payment shock, and asking for the sale during your site visit

• The Biggest Mistakes: Why asking prospects to buy too soon destroys rapport, and why never asking at all leaves money on the table (plus the psychology behind asking 5-8 times)

Key Takeaways:

• 90-95% of ADU prospects start as "curious" buyers who need education, not just pricing
• The biggest sales killer is emailing quotes instead of presenting them live
• Your toughest competition is "the conversation that happens without you"
• Rapport isn't about being friendly - it's about understanding your customer's decision-making process

Whether you're a general contractor selling 2-4 ADUs per year or an established builder looking to scale to 10+ units monthly, this episode gives you the roadmap to transform curious prospects into signed contracts.

Guest Bio: Christina Henderson has 25 years of experience in new construction sales, from selling homes for major builders to training national sales teams. She created ADU Sales Mastery, the first sales training developed exclusively for ADU sales, and now helps ADU builders nationwide increase their close rates and build scalable sales systems.

Connect with Christina:

• Website: theadusalescoach.com
• Email: christina@theadusalescoach.com
• Text: (843) 860-5755

In this episode of the Ad Marketing Podcast, Clay sits down with Brody Boston, co-owner of Evergreen Tiny Homes, to unpack how his company went from brand new to fully booked in under five months. Brody shares the exact strategies that helped him close 10 contracts quickly—including a simple $2,500 commitment tactic that transformed their sales process, why texting beats calling when it comes to lead follow-up, and how they pre-qualify clients without wasting time on bad leads.

They also dive into the unexpected mix of projects Brody is seeing in his market, from primary residences to unique custom builds like glam garages, plus insights on navigating local regulations to unlock hidden business opportunities. Whether you’re a builder, marketer, or entrepreneur, this episode is packed with practical, real-world takeaways you can apply to grow faster and close more deals.

Tune in to learn how Evergreen Tiny Homes cracked the code to rapid growth—without overcomplicating the process.