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Evan and Jamie Kay meet and discuss the healing, reflective, and connecting elements of songwriting with the writer and its audiences. Jamie has written over 300 songs in the course of his 50 years of songwriting. He's a gifted storyteller who's sincerity penetrates throughout our conversation. We're happy to share his energy with our listeners!

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Evan and Melissa discuss clients' perspectives that therapists have super powers, how being seen in a raw, deep, meaningful way can at times feel like voodoo magic.

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Evan and Melissa answer an audience question regarding intellectual defenses in session. "How do I get my therapist to become aware that I am using my intellect to deflect from emotional vulnerability in our sessions?"

We are hoping to incorporate this type of interaction with followers more often. If you have any questions about therapy, please don't hesitate to reach out!

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Evan and Melissa explore how intellectualizing stories serves as a protective distancing from emotional exploration, expression, and healing.

• Implicit memory healing
• Bilateral stimulation
• CBT often ineffective for treating
• Bottom up approach to client care versus top down approach
• Emotional-relational realm being the healing quality of therapy

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Evan and Melissa explore the ways in which clients use intellectualism as a means to conceptualize emotional memories to maintain safety. Topics also include:

• Emotional attainment
• Maintaining an observer role when someone is dysregulated
• Maladaptive ways of creating self-protection
• Therapy is not advice-giving
• Explore emotional memories is delicate and is a process

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Evan, Melissa, and Eli share their experiences with client attunement and the ways in which such connection can promote a deep sense of understanding and meaning.

• Emotional attunement with clients informing unconventional approaches
• Eli sifts through his transcription grad school notes from 1913
• Emotional attunement compared to flocks of birds and musicians
• Intuition informing therapeutic path

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Evan, Melissa, and Eli process Evan's recent experience being harassed by the police. Topics also include:

• Profiling
• Crime and punishment ideology
• Life-long record keeping
• Escalation before de-escalation
• Cop incompetence

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Evan and Eli meet in video form for the first time-- available on Youtube! They use this hour to explore themes of:

• Conversion Therapy
• Emotional Residue from clients
• Counter-transferrence

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