This week, we lighten things up a bit with a nostalgic trip to what used to be the pinnacle of capitalism before the interrnet ruined it, the mall. Join Sam, Jamie, and today's guest, Bridget Murray, as they relive those happy, relaxed, and Orange Julius-fueled days of yore.

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This week, Jamie's little sister Ellen joins us to discuss things that happen far too often and that we don't talk about enough: her experiences with early pregnancy loss and then the traumatic birth of her and her husband's first child she was able to carry to term.

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We discuss Barry, Sam's lovable, yet crotchety dog who passed away in January. Sam talks about getting Barry, his best qualities, quirks, the gift he left her on the way out and everything he meant to her.

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Today, Sam and Jamie talk to Kathy Einhorn who lost her husband suddenly the day before a highly anticipated new phase of their lives was set to begin. Kathy talks to us about being forced to change course and to choose to keep active and adventurous for herself. Kathy has used her life's work in education to explore her grief and share what she's learned through writing.

Check out Kathy's books:

Healthy Aging for Seniors: Staying Fit While Having Fun

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On this episode Sam and Jamie welcome guest Rachel Stone. Through the loss of her stepfather and her mother a few years later, Rachel talks to us about the difference between a "good death" and "death with dignity," and the expectations they set for the ones we lose and for ourselves during the process and the grief we experience afterwards.

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Sam and Jamie welcome guest Amy King. Amy lost her dad suddenly at the age of 11, and didn't have a place to discuss her feelings and share her grief until she was in college. She shares how it felt to lose someone so important at a young age, the confusion of her grief when it wasn't invited to be shared in her house, and wonderful resources for helping a kid through their own grief.

Links mentioned in the show:

The Dougy Center, a nationwide support groups for children: www.Dougy.org

Books:

The Loss That is Forever by Maxine Harris

Never The Same by Donna Schuurman

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On the final episode of this season, Sam and Jamie talk to Logan Fuson about the grief of being a sports fan (specifically of the Indiana Pacers). From losing seasons to major upsets just when things are finally looking up, Logan discusses how the sports losses actually taught him a lot about grief.

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On this episode we follow up the on our therapy episode with our experiences using art as therapy. From creating naturally as children to consciously avoiding it as adults, even when we know it would do as good. Art is a wonderful healer, and it doesn't even have to be good!

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