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Somebody Lied When...

Somebody Lied When...

By: Dr. Kipenzi Herron & Shanelle D. Johnson
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Somebody Lied When... is what happens when two longtime friends and licensed marriage and family therapists start questioning the things we’ve all been told about love, relationships, healing, family, identity, and life.

“Happy wife, happy life.”
“Love is enough.”
“Strong women don’t need help.”
“Time heals all wounds.”

Yeah... somebody lied.

Hosted by Dr. Kipenzi Herron and Shanelle D. Johnson, each episode takes on one of those familiar sayings, assumptions, or rules we have inherited and asks: Where did this come from? Is it actually true? And what happens when real life doesn’t work that way?

Expect real conversation, clinical insight without the therapy-speak, personal stories, cultural context, humor, disagreement, and the kind of conversations friends have when nobody is trying to give the “right” answer.

We are not here to tell you how your relationship, family, healing, or life is supposed to look. We are here to question who told you it had to look that way in the first place.

Real Conversations. Real Life.

New episodes every Tuesday.

2026 Dr. Kipenzi Herron & Shanelle D. Johnson
Relationships Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Somebody Lied When...They Said Communication Is the Problem
    27 Oct 2026

    You’ve explained it ten different ways. Why does the conversation still end in a fight?

    Somebody lied when they said communication is the problem. Sometimes the words are clear, but it feels risky to be honest, vulnerable, or disagree. Join Dr. Kipenzi and Shanelle as we explore how defensiveness, shutdown, and fear shape couple conversations, and what it takes to feel safe enough to hear each other.

    Book resources shared in this episode:

    Howard, S. (2020). Use your mouth: Pocket-sized conversations to simply increase 7 types of intimacy in and out of the bedroom. Independently published.

    McDaniel, K. (2021). Mother hunger: How adult daughters can understand and heal from lost nurturance, protection, and guidance. Hay House.

    Rosenberg, M. B. (2015). Nonviolent communication: A language of life (3rd ed.). PuddleDancer Press.

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    46 min
  • Somebody Lied When...They Said Marriage is Supposed to Make You Happy
    20 Oct 2026

    You said “I do.” Did you also expect your spouse to become responsible for your happiness?

    Somebody lied when they said marriage is supposed to make you happy. Join Dr. Kipenzi and Shanelle as we unpack what marriage reflects back to you, the patterns it challenges, and the growth it asks of both partners. We explore personal responsibility, emotional connection, and what you can reasonably expect from the person you married.

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    38 min
  • Somebody Lied When...They Said Healing Happens in 50 minutes
    13 Oct 2026

    You get 50 minutes in therapy. What are you doing with the rest of your week?

    Somebody lied when they said healing has to happen 50 minutes at a time. Therapy is where you make sense of your patterns and organize change. Change takes hold when you practice differently in real life. Join Dr. Kipenzi and Shanelle as we explore what it takes to move from understanding your patterns to changing how you show up.

    Book resources shared in this episode:

    O’Rourke, S. (2025). Unburdened: The reclamation theory: A liberation-focused clinical model for reclaiming identity, capacity, and voice. Independently published.

    Tawwab, N. G. (2021). Set boundaries, find peace: A guide to reclaiming yourself. TarcherPerigee.

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    34 min
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