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Sheila Kazan: Making time for creative expression outside a demanding job.

Sheila Kazan: Making time for creative expression outside a demanding job.

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Do you have a creative project that you dream about but that never quite gets any time or attention? After all, after work there's not much energy, time or attention left.

You'll like Sheila's story.

During the day, Sheila Kazan creates programs and experiences designed to help teams thrive at Slack. She's really good at what she does. It's a demanding full-time role.

But, Sheila is a storyteller at heart. She's the creator and host of Small Talk with Sheila, where she explores the messy, funny, and very human parts of life. She produces a YouTube channel, podcast and more. Her commitment to this creative expression has caused her to better understand herself, build confidence and make a personal commitment not to quit.

Listen to hear more about building a creative life outside of work.

In the episode, I talk about (and recommend) The Perfectionists Guide to Losing Control, by Katherine Morgan Schafler.

YOUTUBE: @SmallTalkWithSheila

POD: Small Talk with Sheila (links to Spotify)

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EVOLUTION OR REVOLUTION is produced by Courtney Kaplan.

Website: Iconic Leadership Coaching.

Follow me on IG @iconic_owl

Connect on Linked in @courtney-kaplan

Music by Midwest Got It (IG: midwestgotit)

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