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Second Verse

Second Verse

By: Becky Boyland
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🎙 Second Verse – Because it’s never too late to make music. Are you an indie artist or creative dreaming of a second chance at your music career? Second Verse is the podcast that celebrates independent musicians, singer-songwriters, and artists who got started—or started again—after a more traditional career. Join host Becky Boyland, a singer-songwriter and music branding expert, as she interviews indie artists who prove that success isn’t just for the young and major-label backed. Each episode dives into real-life stories of artists navigating their second verse in music—overcoming fears, finding their audience, and making their creative dreams a reality. 💡 What You’ll Get: ✅ Inspiring stories from independent musicians who took the leap ✅ Actionable tips for pursuing your music career at any stage ✅ Branding and marketing insights to grow your audience ✅ Motivation to finally take that next step toward your dream No matter where you are on your musical journey, Second Verse will help you feel seen, supported, and ready to take action. Subscribe now, leave a review, and visit secondversepod.com to submit your story, connect on social media, and start your own Second Verse. 🎶 Your dream is still waiting—let’s make music.Copyright 2026 Becky Boyland Music Personal Development Personal Success
Episodes
  • Clayton Craddock on Broadway | Talent Gets You In, Trust Gets You Hired

    Clayton Craddock on Broadway | Talent Gets You In, Trust Gets You Hired
    27 Oct 2026
    Broadway Drummer Clayton Craddock on the Trust Economy, Building Relationships, and Starting Over at 60Host Becky Boyland interviews Broadway drummer and author Clayton Craddock about how relationships—not chops—create lasting music careers. Clayton shares growing up surrounded by soul, funk, rock, and jazz, falling in love with drums, and being steered toward accounting at Howard University before moving to New York in 1993 to pursue music while working day jobs. Over years of networking, he landed touring work (Footloose, Tick, Tick… Boom!), began subbing on Broadway (including Rent), and earned major credits and awards, ultimately playing four Tony Award–winning shows and two off-Broadway award winners, with his last being CATS: The Jellicle Ball (which closed after four months). Now starting over in Las Vegas at 60, he teaches “talent will get you in, but trust will get you hired” through Broadway Bound and Beyond, his book, podcast, and masterclass, emphasizing the long game, versatility, and realistic expectations.https://youtu.be/JP7ieIO_6RYConnect with Clayton Craddock:Websites: https://broadwayboundandbeyond.com and https://claytoncraddock.comPodcast: Broadway Bound and Beyond with Clayton Craddock https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/broadway-drumming-101-the-podcast/id1575847517Instagram: @claytoncraddock and @broadwayboundandbeyondYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@broadwaydrumming101Sign up for the October 29 masterclass, The Trust Economy: https://www.broadwayboundandbeyond.com/p/talent-gets-you-noticed-trust-getsSponsors:She Produces Music: https://www.sheproducesmusic.comFeatured Song:”Undo” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland (used with permission).Timestamps:00:00 Teaser: Clayton Craddock Interview00:21 Introduction01:07 Broadway by Accident02:44 Family Roots and Funk06:10 First Drum Kit Spark08:47 Berklee Dream Deferred10:59 Howard Band and NYC Move13:31 Day Jobs and Nightlife16:25 First Tour Breakthrough20:04 From Tours to Broadway21:47 Trust Economy Networking25:22 Broadway Journey to CATS: The Jellicle Ball28:06 Show Closes Suddenly28:49 Carless in New York30:07 Subway Burnout31:15 SPONSOR: She Produces Music31:46 Starting Over in Vegas33:13 Pandemic Perspective34:32 Podcast to Book Blueprint37:56 Broadway Is Temp Work39:49 Beyond the Pit Life43:04 Tours and Theater Ecosystem45:53 Making It and Paying It Forward50:49 Advice for Dream Chasers56:23 Where to Find Clayton57:30 Final Thanks and Wrap58:16 Coda01:00:33 Featured Song: "Undo" by Becky BoylandStream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Or to your Tidal now!https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974dStarting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)
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    1 hr and 3 min
  • Jesse Sterling Harrison on Building an “Always On” Creative Process in His Second Verse

    Jesse Sterling Harrison on Building an “Always On” Creative Process in His Second Verse
    20 Oct 2026

    Jesse Sterling Harrison on a Bulletproof Creative Process, Archival Releases, and Keeping Music Fun

    In this episode of Second Verse, Becky interviews songwriter, recording artist, and author Jesse Sterling Harrison, whose archival solo acoustic album Catch and Release Program has been remastered and released on Brave Tiger Records, curated by Joshua David Thayer; the songs were recorded in a living room around 1998 and previously circulated only among friends. Jesse describes starting to make up songs at age four or five, being influenced by a musical family, and later sidelining music during early parenthood before returning after divorce and, more recently, as an empty nester in his 50s. He explains a “bulletproof” creative process built on capturing ideas anywhere (work truck, tractor, airport terminals, voice memos, and even soap notes on a bathroom mirror), writing an album using the online drum machine Drumbit, and organizing a wide-ranging catalog into distinct projects with clear elevator pitches. He also shares how a humbling party jam pushed him to maintain his guitar skills and emphasizes prioritizing fun in recording and performance.

    https://youtu.be/ZPacUjeKPDo

    Connect with Jesse Sterling Harrison:

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessesterlingharrison/
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61554253302349
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MysticWarriorMusic
    • Brave Tiger Records: https://bravetigerrecords.com/
    • Album on Bandcamp: https://jessesterlingharrison1.bandcamp.com/album/jesse-sterling-harrison-catch-and-release-program

    Sponsors:

    • She Produces Music: https://www.sheproducesmusic.com

    Featured Song:

    • ”Your Favorite” by Jesse Sterling Harrison, written by Jesse Sterling Harrison (used with permission).

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Teaser: Jesse Sterling Harrison Interview
    • 00:38 Introduction
    • 02:19 Welcome and Origins
    • 03:07 Family Musical Roots
    • 04:02 Life Shift and Parenthood
    • 05:20 Returning to Creativity
    • 06:40 Bulletproof Creative Habits
    • 09:04 Home Studio and Dream Ideas
    • 12:35 Capture and Rework Old Songs
    • 14:41 New Tools and Drum Machine Writing
    • 17:56 Genre Buckets and Artist Branding
    • 22:40 Consistency and Practice Mindset
    • 26:28 SPONSOR: She Produces Music
    • 27:01 Lyrics and Song Storytelling
    • 32:01 Upcoming Releases and Formats
    • 37:08 Keep Music Fun
    • 38:30 Advice for Coming Back
    • 41:42 Where to Find Jesse
    • 42:20 Final Thanks and Wrap-Up
    • 42:28 Coda

    Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285

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    49 min
  • Everything Feels Impossible Until It’s Done | Vincent Van den Broeck on Going All In

    Everything Feels Impossible Until It’s Done | Vincent Van den Broeck on Going All In
    13 Oct 2026

    Second Verse: Vincent Van Den Broeck on Mindset, Consistency, and Doing the Work Until It’s Done

    Host Becky Boyland interviews Belgian entrepreneur/restauranteur and author Vincent Van den Broeck, who shares how music has always shaped his life through emotionally linked moments. After being hit by a car on a scooter in Brussels on October 11, 2024, Vincent spent three weeks in a coma and months in rehab, where a friend’s music pushed him to “do more, take one more step.” Now recovered, he wrote Everything Feels Impossible Until It’s Done and founded the Until It’s Done (UID) Club to help people pursue goals with consistency and accountability. In the conversation he challenges Becky—and listeners—with “Why do you do what you do?… Now do. Show me,” emphasizing that impact isn’t measured by views and that becoming an artist comes down to who you are when life isn’t going your way.

    https://youtu.be/9_R1z_w5aY0

    Connect with Vincent Van den Broeck:

    • https://theuidclub.com
    • https://hashtagbrussels.com
    • Socials: @hashtagbrussels
    • Socials: @vincentinthekitchen
    • Vincent’s book, Everything Feels Impossible Until It's Done: https://www.theuidclub.com/the-book

    Sponsors:

    • She Produces Music: https://www.sheproducesmusic.com

    Featured Song:

    • ”Last to Leave” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland (used with permission).

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Teaser: Vincent Van den Broeck Interview
    • 01:55 Welcome, Vincent
    • 02:50 Music and Meaning
    • 05:01 Artists' Impact Beyond Stats
    • 08:26 Restaurant Beginnings
    • 12:16 Love the Work Not Image
    • 15:10 Your Turn!
    • 15:17 Prove It With Action
    • 17:42 Consistency Beats Numbers
    • 22:23 SPONSOR: She Produces Music
    • 22:56 The 2024 Accident
    • 25:38 Healing and Perspective
    • 29:06 Book and Mission
    • 32:31 Until Its Done Club
    • 34:02 Where to Find Vincent
    • 35:50 Coda
    • 38:34 Featured Song: "Last to Leave" by Becky Boyland

    Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285

    Or to your Tidal now!

    https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974d

    Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)
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    42 min
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