In this episode, Andrew Drummond and Matt Hart sit down with Gary Cantrell, the visionary mind behind the infamous Barkley Marathons and the Last Runner Standing race format. They explore the creative genius behind these brutal endurance challenges, uncover whether Stephen King's "The Long Walk" sparked Gary's imagination, and reveal if ultrarunning legend Kilian Jornet has ever thrown his hat in the ring for Barkley.

In this episode, hosts Andrew Drummond and Matt Hart sit down with writer, Run The Alps founder, and longtime mountain runner Doug Mayer. Doug’s roots run deep in the White Mountains, where early adventures shaped his sense of adventure, curiosity, and community. We trace the arc that led him from Randolph, New Hampshire to Chamonix, France, where he now lives year-round. Doug is the author of many fine books that you should read:

• The Race that Changed Running: The Inside Story of UTMB
• Run the Alps' Trail Running Chamonix-Mont Blanc: 30 Must-Do Trail Runs
• The Last of the Giants: An Ultra Running Graphic Novel

In this episode Andrew Drummond and Matt Hart talk to Tom Hooper and Josh Ferenc about the World Mountain Running Championships. Tom is a long-time race director here in the east who has had a front row seat for the evolution and development of Team USA and the Worlds. Josh an educator and who was an athlete on previous Worlds teams. This year he transitioned into coaching our U20 Team (under 20 athletes) traveling to race abroad.