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Radical Sacred

Radical Sacred

By: Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke
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Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.

For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore.

Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation.

Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as:
  • What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?
  • Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?
  • Where do you experience the Holy?
  • If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?
  • How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?
  • Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?
  • How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?
Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls.

Will you join them?Copyright Phillip Dieke Christianity Ministry & Evangelism Spirituality
Episodes
  • An Introduction to Season 4 - Nurture

    An Introduction to Season 4 - Nurture
    21 Oct 2026
    In our kickoff episode for Season 4, we explore the profound concept of nurture through personal stories, spiritual reflections, and community experiences. We recorded live at the Wild Goose Festival as we discussed how nurture manifests in nature, faith, community, and self-care, emphasizing its role in growth and wholeness.

    Key Topics
    • The significance of nature and water as symbols of nurture
    • Personal stories of nurturing from faith communities
    • The importance of vulnerability and community in growth
    • Reimagining nurture beyond comfort zones
    • The role of intentionality in self-care and collective healing
    Chapters
    00:10 Introduction to the theme of nurture at Wild Goose
    02:01 Connecting with nature through dew and water
    05:11 The spiritual significance of nurture and Howard Thurman
    09:39 Exploring collective nurturing and community support
    13:58 Nature as a space for spiritual reflection and healing
    18:55 What does it feel like to be truly nurtured?
    22:12 Breaking up the roots: Nurture as unfolding
    27:22 The role of faith communities in nurturing
    34:01 The importance of spaces like Lake Michigan and wild places
    37:33 Carrying the spirit of nurture into everyday life
    41:11 Closing thoughts: Moving out of the rut and into nurture
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    43 min
  • Special Episode with: Kelly Slaven, Jessica Brazeal, & Hillary Owen - Men and the Will to Change

    Special Episode with: Kelly Slaven, Jessica Brazeal, & Hillary Owen - Men and the Will to Change
    14 Oct 2026
    Friends, today our hearts are heavy as we sift through the news about the horrible violence against women and children that is committed every day in our country and around the world. We talk with our favorite mental health professionals - Kelly Slaven and Jessica Brazeal of The Haven Wellness Center in Dallas, TX and Hillary Owen of Driftwood Healing in Santa Rosa Beach, FL about the root causes of violence against women, what we need to heal collectively, and the harm that patriarchy inflicts on men, women, children, and our planet. As bell hooks says “Feminism makes it possible for men and women to know love.” We invite you to join us in this conversation today and to invest in a future rooted in matriarchy and care for all. Show Notes:Sarah Bareilles - hands off my bodyThe Haven Wellness Center in Dallas, TXDriftwood Healing in Santa Rosa Beach, FLbell hooks - The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love (email radicalsacredpod@gmail.com for a copy) Men who Hate Women by Laura BatesGloria SteinemI have Some Questions for You by Rebecca MakkaiTrauma and Recovery by Judith HermanEvery Man: Why Violence Against Women is a Men’s Issue, and How You Can Make a Difference by Jackson KatzChapters00:10 Introduction to the episode and guest contributions03:56 Grounding through connection and creative activities08:05 The patriarchy and bell hooks' perspective on love and maleness12:03 The social and cultural roots of violence and groupthink15:51 Parenting, modeling, and teaching consent and respect19:50 The importance of belonging, community, and positive reinforcement24:09 The socialization of children and the importance of role models27:55 Parenting, community, and creating spaces of belonging31:54 The importance of relationship, connection, and role modeling35:59 The impact of social movements like Me Too and political shifts38:03 The role of faith, religious institutions, and Christian nationalism40:04 Challenging harmful religious and societal narratives41:55 The importance of love, compassion, and reimagining God44:01 Practical steps for dismantling patriarchy and fostering love45:59 Resources and books for understanding and challenging patriarchy47:52 The power of relationship and community in social change49:49 The importance of intentionality and activism in everyday life51:56 Creating spaces of belonging and love for boys and men53:50 The role of women and marginalized groups in social transformation55:00 Closing thoughts and call to action for listeners
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    57 min
  • Doug Pagitt on July 4th, Patriotism, and the Common Good

    Doug Pagitt on July 4th, Patriotism, and the Common Good
    4 Jul 2026
    Are you also feeling complex feelings about America, our history of violence as a country, our current fascist leadership, and our fear and hope for what’s to come this 4th of July? Join us as we talk to author, activist, musician and founder of Vote Common Good Doug Paggit. Doug leads us through this honest conversation on working for change together, mourning all that’s been, and building an America we can all belong to.


    Show Notes:
    • Vote Common Good
    • Doug Pagitt
    • Esther’s Army - Katie Giddini
    • Let America be America by Langston Hughes
    • Documentary - Cross Country Bike Ride “Whose the We”
    Key Topics
    • Expansive view of Christianity and faith
    • The role of stories in shaping identity
    • Patriotism and its personal nature
    • The importance of community and inclusion
    • The intersection of faith and politics
    • Stories of connection across political divides
    • The history of America and its narratives
    • The work of Vote Common Good
    Chapters
    00:50 Exploring Identity and Belonging in America
    03:31 The Emergence of Progressive Christianity
    06:43 The Divine Dance: Understanding Community and Theology
    09:38 Navigating Political Identity and Faith
    12:45 The Role of Ancestors and Mentorship in Activism
    15:35 The Intersection of Faith and Politics
    18:36 Reimagining the American Narrative
    21:18 The Power of Storytelling in Social Change
    23:59 Building a More Inclusive Community
    26:40 The Journey of Vote Common Good
    29:46 Engaging in Meaningful Conversations
    32:44 The Importance of Listening and Understanding
    35:15 Finding Inspiration in Historical Movements
    38:11 The Collective We: Expanding Our Understanding of Community
    42:00 A Modern Good Samaritan Encounter
    45:23 The Dilemmas of American Identity
    48:26 Navigating Political Conversations in Faith Communities
    56:34 The Complexity of Patriotism
    01:01:34 Embracing Diversity in American Identity
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    1 hr and 9 min
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