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REFS NEED LOVE TOO

REFS NEED LOVE TOO

By: David Gerson
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An honest perspective from the 3rd team on the pitch... the referees. Through humor, analysis and education, we are slowly changing how people view referees and officials in all sports. We care and have a love for the game as much as any player or coach. Sometimes even more. Youth soccer (proper football) is a multi-billion $ industry in the US. Tremendous money is spent on players, competitions, travel etc., but almost nothing spent on developing the next generation of referees. I hope that this Podcast inspires, educates and humanizes the next generation of referees for their own development and appreciation from the players, coaches and spectators they need to work alongside.

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Episodes
  • Life Changing Experience - Cerebal Palsy World Cup
    23 Oct 2026

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    There’s a World Cup happening that most soccer fans never think to look for, and it might be the most inspiring tournament I’ve ever stepped into. I’m talking about the IFCPF World Cup, the international cerebral palsy soccer World Cup, hosted at the US Soccer headquarters. From 7v7 men’s matches to 5v5 women’s games, the speed and intensity are real, and the athletes are absolutely legitimate footballers, even while managing cerebral palsy, traumatic brain injury, or stroke-related impairment.

    I break down how CP soccer works, including the on-field accommodations and the functional classification system (FT1, FT2, FT3) that keeps matches fair and competitive. We also talk about what makes this tournament unique this year, from the mix of nations to the emotional edge you feel during walkouts and anthems. Even when ability levels vary by program resources, the pride is the same, and the styles of play still look unmistakably Japanese, Colombian, Scottish, Spanish, English, and American.

    Then I take you behind the scenes as a soccer referee: how I got invited, what it’s like walking into a locker room with international officials and former FIFA referees, and what I learn working alongside elite leadership in high-pressure matches. I also share a couple moments I wish I could take back, plus the mental cues that help me reset fast and stay sharp when the next decision matters.

    If you care about refereeing, adaptive sports, or the parts of soccer that remind you why you fell in love with the game, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share this with a referee friend, and leave a review with the biggest takeaway you’re stealing for your next match.

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    29 min
  • A FIFA Ref Explains Why Mental Health Matters - Margaret Domka, Former FIFA Referee and Executive Director of the US Center for Mental Health in Sport
    2 Oct 2026

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    One bad moment on a sideline can wreck a match, end a referee’s season, or follow someone home for weeks. We start with real-world, field-tested guidance on spectator interaction: what to expect, what to ignore, when to explain a call, and why confronting parents directly so often backfires. If you care about referee abuse, match control, and keeping games safe for kids, this first part is packed with practical referee tips you can use this weekend.

    Then I’m joined by Margaret Domka, co-founder and executive director of the U.S. Center for Mental Health and Sport and a former FIFA Women’s World Cup referee. Margaret gets honest about confidence, mistakes, and the “10,000 decisions” reality where a few seconds can hijack your entire week. We talk about pressure, isolation, and why referees and athletes need more than toughness. They need tools, language, and support systems that make mental health in sports as normal to address as a sprained ankle.

    We also dig into what actually helps: community check-ins, mentors who ask “Are you OK?”, and training that works like mental health first aid. Margaret explains the ACT Mental Health Awareness Certification and how it equips sports organizations, coaches, parents, and officials to recognize warning signs, respond early, and connect people to professional care. We close with insights from the National Association of Sports Officials survey, including what drives referee retention and why women officials need development reps, not shortcuts.

    If this conversation helps, subscribe, share it with your referee crew or club leaders, and leave a review so more sports communities can build safer sidelines and stronger mental health.

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    1 hr and 14 min
  • You Can Start Late And Still Be Great! Jim Lacey Shares Regionals Experience.
    18 Sep 2026

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    You can be in your mid-50s, start refereeing “late,” and still earn the biggest assignments if you show up prepared, fit, and professional. That’s the heart of our conversation with Jim Lacey, a Los Angeles-area-based grassroots referee, mentor, and instructor who also happens to be a cancer epidemiologist. Jim shares how he moved from AYSO into USSF, started working higher levels alongside his son, and learned what tournament environments like Far West Regionals truly reward.

    We also get real about referee safety in Southern California: punishing late-summer heat, relentless sun, limited shade at big complexes, and the pressure to work game after game with almost no downtime. Jim breaks down why sun exposure is not just discomfort, it’s a long-term health risk tied to skin cancer prevention, and why leagues should think about scheduling, breaks, hydration, and recovery for officials the same way they do for players.

    Then we dive into the moment every ambitious soccer referee wants to understand: how opportunities open up at Regionals. Jim walks through being labeled an outlier, getting assignments that felt limiting, choosing to treat a U12 match with total respect and sharp mechanics, and turning that performance into a higher-level “prove it” match. The result is a story about credibility, composure, and why no assignment is ever “small” when coaches and assessors are watching.

    If you’re a grassroots referee, a USSF referee chasing upgrades, or a mentor trying to build the next generation, this one will hit home. Subscribe, share this with a referee who needs it, and leave a review with the best advice you’ve ever gotten on the field.

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    1 hr and 10 min
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