A 36-season Colorado wilderness outfitter, Scott Limmer, doesn't sugarcoat it: the new 50%-random draw is about to blow up point inflation and gut the predictability that made Colorado elk hunting plannable. We get into that, the big-bull reality most hunters won't admit, and a stack of Africa stories you won't hear anywhere else.

In this episode:
Why the 2028 draw overhaul tripled the exact point inflation it was meant to fix
The hard truth about how giant public-land bulls actually get killed
Glassing a burn, calling pressure, and why elk go nocturnal
Getting ambushed by the LRA on a bongo hunt in the Central African Republic
How Gaddafi's loose weapons fueled Africa's elephant-poaching wave
The wolf "crap show" and where Colorado's right-to-hunt fight stands

Scott Limmer - https://www.instagram.com/elimminator/
Scott's Outfitting Business - https://comanchewildernessoutfitters.com/

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AG makes the most expensive and strongest flip-flops on earth. Sounds insane, but I like his business. This is a conversation about authentic materials, the economics of making something real, why almost everything in your life is fake, and what happens when an environmental group comes after you with a campaign.

AG is the founder of Toehold, a Las Vegas-based company that sources elephant, hippo, crocodile, shark, and zebra hides — old-world vegetable-tanned leather, made in America, by hand. We get into the murder hides specifically: a bull elephant called the Red Ghost, a man-eating croc, and hippos that have trampled people. From there the conversation expands into why real leather smells the way it does, why your car seat isn't what you think it is.

We finish the conversation with a discussion about spearfishing and freediving.

Guest: AG Gregoroff — Founder/CEO of Toehold.

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A decade-plus of guiding off horses and mules, distilled into a Q&A with Vince who is going on his first horseback elk hunt. Cliff doesn't sugarcoat it: horses are always a cost, sometimes a massive advantage, and never the shortcut people think they are.

In this episode:

• Why packing horses is something you do after you have horse experience — not how you get into it
• Buying and culling stock: why disposition beats conformation every time
• The "herd effect" — using seasoned animals to settle green ones in the mountains
• Hobbles, picketing, hot fence, and why you never leave halters on turned-out shod horses
• Sawbuck vs. Decker, crupper, cinches, blankets, and loading meat solo
• Trail etiquette, saddle soreness, knife carry, tying up, and trucks/trailers on ice

Packing book mentioned - https://amzn.to/4oqCn3w

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