What happens when physical therapists decide the clinic isn’t the finish line — it’s the starting point? In this roundtable discussion, Lindsay, Kelly, and Todd dive into how PTs can lead from any position — whether you’re a student, a staff clinician, or in the C-suite.

They get real about imposter syndrome, leadership guilt, CSM session picks, and why bringing your own chair to the table might be the most powerful move of your career.

In This Episode:

• 3 signs you’re ready for a leadership role
• When guilt hits after leaving the clinic — and what to do with it
• How the Army fast-tracks growth in PTs
• Tips for picking the right CSM sessions
• Why you’re more ready than you think to lead

Sponsors:

• ???? Pre-Roll: Brooks IHL – brooksihl.org
• ⚙️ Mid-Roll: Empower EMR – empoweremr.com
• ???? End-Roll: U.S. Physical Therapy – usph.com

Larry Benz, John Childs, and Tim Flynn join Jimmy to tackle some of the most urgent—and uncomfortable—questions in physical therapy. Are we educating students into a broken system?

LINK TO THEIR LATEST ARTICLE

LINK TO LARRY'S SUBSTACK

Why do most PTs say they wouldn't want their kids to become PTs?

And what would it take to fix this before the next generation gives up?

From the burden of tuition to the unintended consequences of accreditation rigidity, this episode pulls no punches. It's a high-stakes conversation with voices that have shaped PT education, and who believe it's time to reshape it again.

Topics Discussed:

• The unsustainable cost of DPT education
• Why hybrid programs faced institutional resistance
• What accreditation bodies are getting wrong
• How young entrepreneurs might save the profession
• The question every PT should ask: "Would I want my kids to do this?"

Featured Guests:

• Larry Benz — Confluent Health
• Dr. John Childs — South College
• Dr. Tim Flynn — Evidence in Motion

Physical therapists are short on time, long on complaints, and totally missing the point: we're in an attention economy. In this episode, Jimmy and the crew dive into:

• How RTM is "free money" and still ignored
• What ESPN's ridiculous programming can teach PT clinics
• CrossFit, Peloton, and OrangeTheory as models for gamifying outcomes
• Why most CSM booths are $20,000 toilets
• Clinic competition, trivia-style leaderboards, and The Floor is Lava: Medicare Edition

This isn't about hype. It's about attention, strategy, and clinical creativity. Want to build the PT profession's Savannah Bananas? This episode's your blueprint.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 Intro: The Attention Economy in PT

04:22 RTM Is Free Money (But No One Uses It)

09:45 What We Can Steal From ESPN 8: The Ocho

14:36 Clinic Games & CrossFit Leaderboards

19:52 The Real ROI of CSM Booths

26:11 Medicare Edition: The Floor is Lava

31:22 Alternative Halftime Shows & Fake Game Testing

36:44 Clinic vs Clinic: Building a PT Leaderboard

43:00 Final Thoughts: Outrun the Bear, Not the Pack

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