Episode: Darren Cross (Gerling)

In this episode, I sit down with Darren Cross — frontman of Gerling — for a deep dive into the band's four-album run: how it all started, the road to their biggest hits, the stories behind the Kylie Minogue and Kool Keith features, why Gerling eventually came to an end, and everything Darren's been up to since, across his many musical projects.

• The early days and formation of Gerling
• The band's four-album span and how their sound evolved
• Landing a feature from Kylie Minogue
• Working with Kool Keith
• The lead-up to Gerling's split
• Darren's post-Gerling projects (The E.L.F., D.C Cross, Jep and Dep, and more)
• The 25th anniversary vinyl reissue of When Young Terrorists Chase the Sun

When Young Terrorists Chase the Sun — 25th Anniversary Vinyl (out soon)https://store.warnermusic.com.au/products/when-young-terrorists-chase-the-sun-2lp-black-vinyl-with-free-a4-sticker-sheet

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This episode starts with a confession: I told a publicist for a very high-profile artist that I already had a podcast. I didn't. What followed was a scramble to actually build the show and lock in guests fast enough to make the lie true before that artist came on as my guest.

From there we get into the music news of the moment:

• The Josh Fawaz controversy — what happened, why it's blown up, and where I land on it
• My AI music video — the response to it and some more thoughts on AI in music that didn't make the original cut
• My Molly Meldrum video — the story behind it and what the reaction's been like

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In this episode:

• How to accidentally commit to a podcast you don't have
• Scrambling for guests under a real deadline
• The Josh Fawaz controversy, unpacked
• AI music, revisited
• Molly Meldrum, revisited

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Episode Summary

In this solo episode, Hayden Quinn returns after a short break — spent, in part, deep in Disco Elysium — and dives straight into a mix of music culture, controversy, and recommendations.

He unpacks the recent controversy surrounding marketing company Chaotic Good, which was exposed for allegedly running fake TikTok fan account networks to manufacture viral moments for artists, and what this means for authenticity in music discovery.

The episode also covers the backlash around Radio Free Atlas appearing on Like a Version, where their cover of DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love by Usher sparked debate after comments about the original track.

Elsewhere, Hayden revisits the cult classic The Commitments, reflecting on why the story of a Dublin soul band still holds up today.

Plus, three songs worth your time this week:

• underscores — Hollywood Forever / The Peace
• Evil Nine — Hired Goons
• Cake — Jolene

A wide-ranging episode about music culture, authenticity, and the ever-blurring line between organic success and manufactured virality.

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