In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric accidentally plays a clip with a not-so-holy word during a staff meeting. In Shady Theology, the guys dig into the theology of speaking in tongues—what it is, what it’s for, and why it still matters. Next up in How Great is Our Pod, they debut a “prodigal” worship song with a special guest (hint, hint). Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they ask if multi-level marketing has any place in the church—or if it’s just spiritual spam.

It’s raw, funny, and loaded with the mix of memes and theology you didn’t know you needed—welcome to Not the Sermon.

00:00:13 – Shooting the Skybalon: Bad words in a staff meeting

00:11:06 – Shady Theology: Speaking in tongues

00:24:41 – How Great is Our Pod: A prodigal worship song

00:38:23 – Pester the Pastor: MLMs in the church Wanna see these ugly mugs and get behind the scenes footage? Check out our Patreon https://www.patreon.com/c/NOTtheSermon

In this episode, Jamie & Eric open with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric dives into the strange world of the Amish Mafia and Jamie talks about staff meeting word games. In Weird Worship, they ask if there’s a secret worship cabal—are just a handful of people running the whole industry? Then it’s on to Odd News, where they debate whether becoming a Christian actually makes you “hotter.” Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a practical question: is it okay for churches to track metrics like attendance and giving?

It’s bizarre, hilarious, and just the right mix of memes and ministry—welcome to Not the Sermon.

00:00:19 – Shooting the Skybalon: Amish Mafia & word games

00:09:32 – Weird Worship: The worship cabal

00:23:37 – Odd News: Are Christians hotter?

00:33:04 – Pester the Pastor: Should churches track metrics?

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, swapping stories about college football heartbreak and debating whether you’ve got a “bestie” or a “worstie.” In Shady Theology, they wrestle with the tough question: Does God cause natural disasters? Then in Pester the Pastor, Eric manages to trigger Jamie during a heated discussion on small groups—are they helpful or just hype? Finally, in Christian Conspiracies, the guys dive into a wild one: was John the Baptist actually the real Messiah?

00:00:17 – Shooting the Skybalon: College football & besties vs. worsties

00:12:47 – Shady Theology: Does God cause natural disasters?

00:24:44 – Pester the Pastor: Eric triggers Jamie about small groups

00:35:09 – Christian Conspiracies: Was John the Baptist the real Messiah?