In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie admits to using a church member as a lock-up wingman to avoid closing duties, and the guys talk about how pastors have quietly become full-time content machines. In Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with Christians and media consumption, asking what a healthy relationship with the digital world actually looks like. In Odd News, they cover a strange article about dogs learning vocabulary and habits from their owners. Finally, in Shady Theology, they dig into the clergy vs. laity divide and where that line came from in the first place.

It’s honest, weird, and uncomfortably relevant—welcome to Not the Sermon.

00:00:15 – Skybalon: Lock-up wingman & holy content machines

00:11:07 – Pester the Pastor: Media consumption

00:24:51 – Odd News: Dogs learning vocabulary from their owners

00:35:29 – Shady Theology: The clergy vs. laity divide

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, joined by Eric’s sister, Madison. The conversation quickly goes off the rails as Jamie shares his near death experience and Madison starts sharing stories that Eric probably hoped would stay private. In Shady Theology, they wrestle with whether it’s actually okay to share ministry stats and numbers. Madison sticks around to give us even more dirt on Eric, because of course she does. Finally, in Oh My, Your Greek Is Showing, the guys break down pistis and what the Bible really means when it talks about faith.

It’s chaotic, revealing, and sneakily theological—welcome to Not the Sermon.

00:00:14 – Skybalon: Jamie chokes & Eric’s sister joins the pod

00:10:15 – Shady Theology: Ministry stats

00:22:11 – Interview: Interviewing Eric’s sister

00:32:35 – Your Greek Is Showing: Pistis

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, talking about the telltale signs that someone just won the lottery and why everyone seems to be weirdly obsessed with Eric’s hair. In Shady Theology, they dive into purgatory—where the idea came from, why it stuck, and why it still sparks debate. Then it’s game time with The Slang Game, where they try to guess the meanings of ancient slang terms and quickly realize people have always been weird. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they tackle magic in the Bible and ask what to do with supernatural activity that doesn’t seem to come directly from God.

It’s funny, curious, and theologically mischievous—welcome to Not the Sermon.

00:00:18 – Skybalon: Winning the lottery & Eric’s hair

00:10:00 – Shady Theology: Purgatory

00:20:28 – Game: The Slang Game

00:31:27 – Pester the Pastor: Magic in the Bible