This episode of MIB explores MI as a craft, moving beyond a set of skills to a nuanced conversational art form. We aim to explore what it takes to become a practitioner focusing on the intuitive, adaptive and deeply personal aspects of helping. We were joined by Heather Flynn, Patrick Berthiaume, David Rosengren, Mike Porteous and Allan Zuckoff for the unbounded conversation.

The 2025 Motivational Interviewing Summit was a gathering of
colleagues from around the world to explore the future of MI
practice, and research. Sponsored by the Florida State University Center for Behavioral Health Integration, the MI Summit was held in Tallahassee, Florida, USA on 17-18 May 2025. This interactive collaborative event included roundtable and panel discussions centred on innovations and directions of MI. We had robust exchanges, friendly differences, and good humour through a lively two-day
gathering. In this podcast we reflected on the the learnings and questions that emerged from our time together.

In the episode of MIB, Steve and Joel are joined by Terri Moyers, Chris Wagner and Densie Ernst to explore how skillful do you need to be at MI to be hopeful. This conversation compliments up our last episode on "Harmology". We hope you find this discussion stimulating and enjoyable.

We could not do MIB without the generous support of the team at the Department of Behavioral Sciences and Social Support at Florida State University.

Thanks for listening!
Joel & Steve