The Wicked movie has taken the world by storm, so naturally Abby had to discuss its political roots, fat applicability, and body diverse casting with original Broadway cast member Kathy Deitch! They also chat about Kathy's experiences as a fat actor and activist, make the dramaturgical case for casting fat actors in iconic musical theatre roles, and (of course) take the lyrics of Defying Gravity and really hold space with that.

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See Kathy in Elf in Sacramento: https://www.broadwaysacramento.com/production/elf/

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Abby talks with Sarai Cole about the infamous 2007 Eddie Murphy comedy Norbit. For the extra-long version of this episode complete with political hot takes and other tangents, check out our Patreon!

Abby returns to discuss Adrianne and the Castle, a new fantasy romance musical hybrid documentary about a couple who built a castle of love in rural Illinois. She is joined by director Shannon Walsh and lead actress SLee to discuss what the film means for fat representation and honoring Adrianne’s memory.

See a screening in NYC or LA!

Website: https://adrianneandthecastle.com/

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UUnjIo2sXA

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SLee's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justcallmeslee/