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Make It Plain Podcast

Make It Plain Podcast

By: Kehinde Andrews
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The Make it Plain podcast is hosted by Kehinde Andrews, chair of Harambee OBU and professor of Black Studies. Each week he discusses what's happening in the world and interviews people you need to hear from. Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Written and hosted: Kehinde Andrews Artwork: Assata Andrews YouTube: Kadiri Andrews2024 Political Science Politics & Government
Episodes
  • Shame on Oxford for spitting on Prof Jason Arday's Grave
    24 Oct 2026

    Kehinde wasn't going to pod, after just getting back from Aotearoa/New Zealand, and being delayed because of food poisoning. After giving all the details (even the unpleasant ones) about the trip he explains he had to come from his sick bed after seeing Oriel College, Oxford were hosting He Who Shall Not Be Named, the supposed "whistelblower" in the Prof Jason Arday tragedy, for a discussion on how DEI is runing higher education.

    Kehinde connects the dots between the Doctrine of Discovery, settler colonialism, DEI backlash, and the intellectual roots of anti-Black thinking in Western universities. He also brings Nobody Can Give You Freedom into the conversation, using it with his sons to unpack Malcolm X, the "wicked race of devils" chapter, and why uncomfortable ideas matter when you're trying to understand power and what's happening a Oxford.

    In this episode, Kehinde explores:

    • Why the Oxford event is more than bad optics—and what it reveals about university culture

    • The meaning of DEI and EDI in the UK and US, and why the debate is often a coded attack on Black and Brown inclusion

    • How "meritocracy" can be weaponized to protect whiteness • How Enlightenment philosophy and modern academia continue to shape racial hierarchy

    • What colonial "treaties" and Aotearoa/New Zealand reveal about recurring global patterns

    • Why independent Black institutions like BRIDGE Black Studies matter now more than ever

    Kehinde also reflects on the Jason Arday scandal, recent reporting that challenges the plagiarism narrative, and why the bigger issue is not one professor, but a system that keeps making space for racist ideas while claiming neutrality.If you care about Black studies, higher education, colonial history, or building institutions outside the plantation, this is essential listening.

    Byline Times article on Jason Arday being cleared of plagiarism: https://bylinetimes.com/2026/10/21/jason-arday-again-cleared-of-plagiarism-as-his-attackers-launch-an-independent-inquiry/

    Find out more and support BRIDGE Black Studies https://bridgeblackstudies.com/

    Join us for Make it Plain live at the Legacy Centre in Birmingham, Nov 6, 6pm: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-reasoning-room-tickets-2002813353655

    Join Harambee OBU: www.blackunity.org.uk

    Written and hosted by: Kehinde Andrews

    Edited by: Kadiri Andrews

    Artwork by: Assata Andrews

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    58 min
  • Was Nikole Hannah-Jones Right?; The politics of Black education + the future of Black Studies
    10 Oct 2026

    Kehinde opens explaining he's been busy and sick, so is late to the Nikole Hannah-Jones conversation. Before diving in he launches the new Black Studies Centre BRIDGE, that we has founded with Dr Dionne Taylor, who was also shown the door at Birmingham City University. Keep your eye out for updates as we take Black Studies back to the community.

    Black education is not just about test scores, and this episode makes the case with force. Kehinde turns a viral controversy around Nicole Hannah-Jones into a much bigger question: what do we actually mean when we say we care about our children, our schools, and our communities? He unpacks the backlash over Hannah-Jones' decision to send her daughter to a local public school, then widens the lens to expose the deeper tension between individual privilege and collective responsibility. Along the way, he gets personal, drawing on his own experience with underfunded schools in Birmingham, the realities of Black children navigating hostile institutions, and why "good schools" often still aren't safe, nurturing, or truly liberatory.

    You'll discover:

    Why the debate over "local school vs private school" is really about class, access, and who gets protected, how school funding, segregation, and structural inequality shape outcomes long before a child sits an exam Why Saturday schools and supplementary education mattered so much in Black communities

    What gets lost when education is reduced to credentials, university access, and job outcomes

    Why building independent Black institutions may matter more than trying to survive broken ones

    Kehinde also connects the conversation to the launch of Bridge Black Studies, a new independent center created after his exit from Birmingham City University, and explains why this moment is about building outside the gatekeepers, not waiting for permission. If you care about Black education, community responsibility, or the limits of respectability politics, this episode is essential listening. It is sharp, candid, and deeply personal, with big questions about how we protect our children and build something better for the next generation.

    Find out more and support BRIDGE Black Studies https://bridgeblackstudies.com/

    Read Nikole Hannah Jones piece: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/20/magazine/ny-public-schools-black-students-segregation.html

    1619 Project: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html Join us for

    Make it Plain live at the Legacy Centre in Birmingham, Nov 6, 6pm: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-reasoning-room-tickets-2002813353655

    Join us for the Harambee OBU Annual General Meeting 21st October 2.30pm https://HarambeeOBUAGM26.eventbrite.co.uk Join Harambee OBU: www.blackunity.org.uk

    Written and hosted by: Kehinde Andrews

    Edited by: Kadiri Andrews

    Artwork by: Assata Andrews

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    1 hr and 4 min
  • Jamaica begs the King for reparations; the end of the UK; Reform w/ Busayo Twins + RIP Bonnie Greer
    19 Sep 2026

    Kehinde opens with a tribute to Bonnie Greer and a recap of the vote over whether he should still keep the title of 'professor'.

    Then he is joined by new regular contributor to the pod, Busayo Twins for a wide ranging conversation. Reparations, Reform, and respectability politics get dragged into the light in this wide-ranging conversation. Kehinde and Busayo Twins discuss Jamaica's push to challenge the King and bring the case for reparations into UK law, while asking a much bigger question: what does real justice look like when the system you're appealing to is the same system that caused the harm?

    The conversation explores the symbolism of Jamaica petitioning the Crown, the role of the Privy Council, and why asking Britain for reparations may reveal the deeper contradictions of colonial power.

    They also discuss:

    • Jamaica's reparations campaign and the political meaning behind it
    • Why reparations must go beyond symbolic gestures or one-off payments - The continuing legacy of the British Empire across the Caribbean and the UK
    • Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and the future of the United Kingdom
    • Reform UK's multimillion-pound donations from wealthy crypto investors
    • How propaganda and racism shape far-right politics
    • Why voters are encouraged to blame immigrants instead of billionaires
    • David Lammy's potential mayoral ambitions and the limits of representation
    • Black politics, respectability, and the manipulation of Black communities
    • Whether HBCUs provide a model for Black education in Britain
    • The need for independent Black Studies institutions and community-led education

    The episode also examines the relationship between titles, academia, power, and self-esteem. What does it mean to be called "Professor" within an institution shaped by colonial traditions? And can Black education create genuinely liberatory alternatives, rather than simply reproducing white institutional models?

    Subscribe for more discussions on Black politics, reparations, education, Britain, and the global African diaspora.

    RIP Bonnie Greer. Check out this clip of her taking on the ugly racist Nick Griffin on BBC Question Time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afE05e6n4Zk

    Jamaica's Culture Minister, Olivia Grange make a PLEA to the King!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/sep/09/jamaica-slavery-reparations-king-charles

    Join us for the Harambee OBU Annual General Meeting 21st October 2.30pm https://HarambeeOBUAGM26.eventbrite.co.uk

    Join Harambee OBU: www.blackunity.org.uk

    Written and hosted by: Kehinde Andrews

    Edited by: Kadiri Andrews

    Artwork by: Assata Andrews

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    1 hr and 15 min
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