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As his October 26 sobriety anniversary approaches, Scott looks back on 28 years of recovery in an honest conversation led by Deb. They talk about the desperation that preceded his first meeting, the phone call that changed his life, and what getting sober didn’t automatically fix. Together, they reflect on restored relationships, lingering self-doubt, and recognizing that God was present even when Scott felt completely abandoned. For anyone wondering whether they’ve gone too far, this conversation offers a deeply personal reason to hope.

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Giftie Thompson grew up in church, but her own relationship with God came through a winding road of shame, teen pregnancy, addiction’s impact on her family, cancer, and fresh grief. In this honest conversation, she shares how she came to know God personally—and why she believes no one is too far gone and nothing is ever wasted with Him.

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Scott and Deb talk about the weight so many of us keep carrying that was never ours to hold. After a funeral and a long ride around the lake, they get real about control, fear, adult kids whose problems you can no longer fix, and why “let go and let God” is more than recovery talk. It’s a conversation about finally putting down what only He can redeem—and discovering He was already waiting in the mess.