Former Dow Jones and News UK executive Ramin Beheshti joins Lachlan Cartwright on The Breaker Pod to discuss why Gen Z doesn’t trust legacy media, how AI is threatening traditional news business models, and why “kids don’t want news” is “bullsh*t.”

Beheshti — now the CEO of Caliber, the company behind The News Movement, The Recount, Capsule, Caliber Collective, and the creator-focused app SaySo — explains why the future of journalism belongs to creators, vertical video, and direct audience relationships.

He also opens up about launching a startup with Will Lewis, why “paywalls have killed curiosity,” how social platforms changed news forever, and why legacy media still doesn’t fully understand the creator economy.

00:00 Intro

05:06 The Wall Street Journal Paywall Era

12:37 Why “Kids Don’t Want News” Is “Bullsh*t”

24:29 Building a 100M+ Audience

30:32 Why SaySo Wants You to Spend Less Time Online

39:48 Legacy Media’s Creator Panic

42:13 AI, Web Traffic & The Future of Media

45:02 Will Lewis’ Future in Journalism

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