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Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.


Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world.


The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left.


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    • Luis Figo's Shock Transfer: From Barcelona to Real Madrid | Part Two
      Feb 2 2026

      We are excited to announce that we will be launching a Patreon on Friday 6th February, where you can get bonus episodes and exclusive content. Follow the link below to sign up:


      Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. On today's episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue exploring one of the most controversial football transfers - Luis Figo's move from Barcelona to Real Madrid. In this second part of the two-part series, they delve into the public and private turmoil surrounding the transfer, including the dramatic fallout at both clubs, fan reactions, and the momentous pig's head incident. They also examine the long-term impact on Figo's career and friendships, and the profound changes this transfer spurred in football. Don't miss this thrilling conclusion!


      00:00 Exciting News and our Patreon Launch

      02:51 Introduction to the Episode

      04:28 Speculation and Media Frenzy

      06:17 Election Drama and Figo's Dilemma

      07:30 The Final Decision

      09:52 The Fallout and Consequences

      11:51 The Election Results

      13:56 Figo's Reluctance and Pressure

      16:26 The Persuasion Tactics

      19:20 The Final Agreement

      28:19 Florentino's Persuasion Tactics

      31:22 Figo's Announcement and Gaspar's Reaction

      33:14 The Fallout in Barcelona

      40:57 The First El Clásico After the Transfer

      43:49 The Infamous Pig's Head Incident

      48:56 The Lingering Legacy and Impact

      53:20 Figo's Reflections and Conclusion




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      56 min
    • Luis Figo's Shock Transfer: From Barcelona to Real Madrid | Part One
      Jan 27 2026

      Welcome back to It Was What it Was, the football history podcast. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into one of the most shocking football transfers of all time - Luis Figo's move from Barcelona to Real Madrid. They discuss the immense impact of this transfer on both clubs, the controversy surrounding it, and how it altered the landscape of football transfers forever. Featuring insights about the political machinations in both clubs, the role of agents, and the seismic shift this transfer created in the football world, this episode brings to life the dramatic story behind the headlines. Tune in for part one of this fascinating two-part series!


      00:00 Quote to open the episode

      05:53 Figo's Role and Style of Play

      09:16 The Political and Historical Context

      17:03 The Presidential Election and Florentino Perez

      26:39 Florentino Perez's Strategy

      30:44 The Complacency at Barcelona

      31:23 Florentino Perez's Scramble for Figo

      32:20 The Role of José Veiga

      36:11 The Pre-Contract and Its Implications

      48:06 The Election and the Leak

      52:54 The Fallout and Future Implications

      53:20 Exciting News: Launching a Patreon


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      55 min
    • The American Dream: Pelé, Cosmos + Rise & Fall of NASL | Part Four
      Jan 20 2026

      Welcome back to It Was What it Was, the football history podcast. In the final episode of our four-part special on the NASL, co-hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson delve into the decline and eventual collapse of the league. From financial instability, over-expansion, and missed opportunities, to the controversial business decisions and the rise of indoor soccer. This episode covers the myriad of factors that led to the NASL's downfall. Explore the final turbulent years, the impact on US Soccer, and the lessons learned from one of football's most intriguing leagues.


      00:00 Introduction to the NASL and Its Peak

      02:08 The Decline Begins: Post-Pele Era

      05:36 Celebrity Owners and Financial Woes

      09:01 The Cosmos' Dominance and League Format Issues

      19:21 Franchise Movements and Player Strikes

      29:03 The Beginning of the End: Financial Losses and Decline

      36:13 Ownership Disputes and Relocations

      37:53 Franchise Failures and Player Movements

      43:34 NASL's Struggles and FIFA's Ultimatum

      44:28 The Final Collapse of NASL

      55:18 Failed Experiments and Indoor Soccer

      01:01:49 The End of NASL and Its Legacy

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      1 h et 13 min
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