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Leverage and Lead

Leverage and Lead

By: Hosted by Bridget Bartlett and Marla Harmon
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Most business podcasts talk about strategies, tactics, and the path to success. We're doing something different. This podcast is about the real entrepreneurial journey—the one that happens behind closed doors, in the middle of the night, when you're questioning everything. We sit down with business owners in the HighLevel community to explore what truly drives them to keep going when everything feels impossible. We ask the questions that matter: What was your rock bottom? What have you sacrificed? What fear are you still carrying? What keeps you pushing through the really hard, scary times?© 2026 Leverage and Lead
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  • Are Data Centers Bad for Your Town? We Asked 6 AI Models
    27 Sep 2026

    Are data centers bad for the towns they're built in? We put it on trial and asked 6 AI models to rule: ChatGPT, Grok, Gemini, Perplexity, Qwen and Claude. Then we flipped the order of the evidence and asked again.

    On September 4, Thai authorities stopped construction on 49 data centers. New York froze new construction of the big ones for a year. Texas paused its approvals. So we put the question on trial. Marla ran the prosecution. Bridget ran the defense. Neither of us gave an opinion. We built one agreed record of 51 sourced facts, handed it to six AI models, and asked each one for a verdict and a confidence score.

    All six said not proven. Then we flipped the order of the evidence and asked again. All six held. Twelve rulings, twelve not provens, with confidence between 34 and 47. Every judge named the same thing that would change its mind: a long term study of real host towns that tracks bills, health, water and home values.

    What the 6 AI judges said (File A, prosecution first, then File B, defense first):
    ChatGPT: not proven, 43, then 44
    Grok: not proven, 38, then 38
    Gemini: not proven, 42, then 42
    Perplexity: not proven, 47, then 47
    Qwen: not proven, 45, then 45
    Claude: not proven, 34, then 35

    The full case file, with every source and verdict: https://leverageandlead.com/ep/are-data-centers-bad

    Build My Free Business Brain: https://url.developlikeagirl.com/?utm_source=spotify

    Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKIKsgwlSKE

    Chapters
    00:00 Why data centers are on trial
    02:50 What a data center actually is
    08:35 Prosecution: Wes Moore, the water NDA
    11:12 Prosecution: Louisville, Virginia noise
    15:10 Defense: Richland Parish, Kevin O'Leary
    19:15 How we built the case file
    22:00 Round one: six AI judges rule
    31:14 Round two: we flipped the evidence
    36:49 We asked ChatGPT out loud
    39:29 We asked Grok out loud
    43:25 The people living next door
    51:14 What it sounds like to live near one
    57:58 Prize wheel

    Clips played in this episode
    What it is
    What data centers actually do, Morning Brew: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MpQsANnmdn8
    Prosecution
    Wes Moore, Governor of Maryland (0:00 to 0:42), Governor Wes Moore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T4ZwkFP68g
    Jason Critchlow, Portage Township Trustee, Indiana (5:43 to 7:11), WNDU 16 News Now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC-3KBBZvNk&t=343s
    The sound of a data center, Louisville, Dean Abrams for Governor: https://www.facebook.com/61591304616617/videos/2056853641639695/
    Neighbors of the Vantage data center, Sterling, Virginia, NewsNation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtXD4EFOsCg
    Defense
    Richland Parish, Louisiana, and Meta's data center (from 1:52), All-In Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp2IbgJ5Z-8&t=112s
    Kevin O'Leary, Only 2 Places Work for AI Data Centers, Kevin O'Leary: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/X9nAX5SnzDg
    After the verdicts
    Rep. Cody Thane Vasut, Texas, on property rights, Citizens For Responsible Growth in Leon County: https://www.facebook.com/reel/28287219834195254/
    The data center backlash is here, The Real Deal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBVI3NjjMjQ
    This is what it sounds like to live near a data center, Granbury, Texas, NBC News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVh2jkuGYps
    AI data center backlash in the US, including the Kentucky farm family, DW News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edron7EKhxA

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