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Grief is the New Normal Podcast with Dr. Heather Taylor

Grief is the New Normal Podcast with Dr. Heather Taylor

By: Dr. Heather Taylor PsyD Psychologist
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Grief is the New Normal is a podcast for anyone who has ever lost something that mattered. Hosted by Dr. Heather Taylor, licensed psychologist and grief specialist, the show brings honest, science-grounded grief education to everyday grievers and mental health professionals alike.

Most of us were never taught how to grieve. We were handed platitudes, timelines, and the message to move on. This podcast exists to replace all of that with something more useful: real information, clinical research, and conversations that actually reflect what grief looks like in real life.

Every episode covers the full spectrum of loss, not just death. Divorce, infertility, job loss, estrangement, identity loss, ambiguous loss, and disenfranchised grief all have a place here. Whether you are in the thick of it or trying to make sense of something you lost years ago, you will find episodes that meet you where you are.

Dr. Taylor brings both clinical expertise and personal experience to every conversation. Solo teaching episodes explore grief reactions, grief theory, and the STAY Framework, a clinically informed approach to grief integration developed by Dr. Taylor herself. Guest interviews feature clinicians, researchers, and advocates working at the intersection of grief, mental health, and human experience.

This is not a podcast about getting over it. It is a podcast about learning to carry it differently.

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Episodes
  • Grief is the New Normal: S3E22 Navigating Dementia Caregiving: Insights from Beverly E. Thorn, PhD

    Grief is the New Normal: S3E22 Navigating Dementia Caregiving: Insights from Beverly E. Thorn, PhD
    22 Oct 2026
    Before I Lose My Own Mind: Dementia Caregiving, Sequential Grief, and Planning Ahead (with Beverly E. Thorn, PhD) Dr. Heather Taylor hosts Beverly E. Thorn, PhD, a clinical health psychologist, chronic illness author, and certified end-of-life doula, to discuss dementia caregiving and grief. Thorn shares how her long career helping people cope with chronic pain intersected with her husband Walt’s Alzheimer’s diagnosis in 2013 after early concerns in 2004, leading her into caregiving, bereavement, and eventually writing a personal trade book, Before I Lose My Own Mind: Navigating Life as a Dementia Caregiver. They explore “sequential” (anticipatory) grief, isolation and abandonment caregivers often feel, exhaustion and guilt, survivor’s guilt, and the value of honest end-of-life planning and clear directives to reduce later decision burdens. Thorn describes supports that helped, the importance of hiring help sooner, teaching others how to help with specific requests, and offers free caregiving resources at drbeverlythorn.com plus Substack and Facebook. 00:00 Grief Is Not A Problem 00:24 Meet Beverly Thorn 01:24 Caregiving Becomes Personal 03:23 Writing The Caregiving Book 05:51 Sequential Grief Explained 09:33 Planning End Of Life Wishes 12:36 Remembering Walt 16:14 Caregiver Support Systems 23:14 Asking For Practical Help 25:03 Asking Without Guilt 26:02 Survivor Guilt Begins 29:14 Honoring Walt Forward 31:05 Signs And Glimmers 33:15 Grief After Death 35:45 Memorials On Your Terms 37:52 Dementia Planning Basics 41:55 Caregivers Not Alone 43:23 Where To Find Beverly 45:30 Final Takeaways --------------------------------- Beverly E. Thorn, Ph.D., is the author of hundreds of articles, two books, and four workbooks on coping with chronic illness. She spent decades as a faculty member at The Ohio State University and The University of Alabama, where she went on to serve as director of the clinical psychology PhD program and department chair in psychology. Currently professor emerita, licensed psychologist, and board certified in clinical health psychology, she is also a certified end-of-life doula and continues to publish, speak, and conduct workshops nationally and internationally on managing chronic illness. https://drbeverlythorn.com/ https://beverlythorn.substack.com/publish/home?utm_source=menu https://www.linkedin.com/in/beverly-thorn-658554318/ https://www.facebook.com/beverly.thorn.3 -------------------------------- Grief is not a problem to solve. It is a human experience to move through, and most of us were never taught how. Grief is the New Normal is hosted by Dr. Heather Taylor, licensed psychologist and grief specialist with over a decade of experience in grief, trauma, and reproductive psychology. This show exists to change the conversation around loss by expanding what grief looks like, who it belongs to, and what it actually means to integrate it into your life. Whether you're grieving a death, a diagnosis, a relationship, an identity shift, or the world as you knew it, your grief is real, it deserves space, and you are not behind. And if you're a clinician, coach, or helper carrying your own grief while holding space for others, this show was built for you too. Dr. Taylor brings research-informed frameworks, honest clinical perspective, and the STAY framework, a grief-informed approach to living with loss that goes far beyond the five stages. Expect nuance, depth, and conversations that take grief seriously. No toxic positivity. No fixing. Just honest conversation, real validation, and a community built around grief literacy, disenfranchised grief, anticipatory grief, collective grief, and the full spectrum of human loss. grief support podcast · disenfranchised grief · anticipatory grief · grief after loss · grief for clinicians · grief-informed care · grief literacy · coping with grief · grief and identity · mental health and grief · reproductive grief · pet loss grief · collective trauma and grief · grief integration · STAY framework New episodes dropping regularly Connect with Dr. Heather Taylor: Website: griefisthenewnormal.com Instagram: @dr.heathertaylor Substack: How We STAY with Grief https://drheathertaylor.substack.com/ Newsletter: Bridging the Grief Gap on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-taylor-psyd-licensed-psychologist/ Journal: Authentically Unapologetic, available on Amazon https://a.co/d/0dM0DloC Contact: heather@thedrheathertaylor.com Music by The Dadicorns. Copyright 2026.
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    46 min
  • Grief is the New Normal Podcast: S3E21 Why Am I Acting Like A Completely Different Person? Where Grief Shows Up in What You Do

    Grief is the New Normal Podcast: S3E21 Why Am I Acting Like A Completely Different Person? Where Grief Shows Up in What You Do
    25 Jun 2026
    Behavioral Grief Reactions: Why Grief Changes What You Do, Not Just How You Feel You have been saying yes to everything because stopping feels terrifying. You have not responded to a text in two weeks. You reorganized the closet three times this month. You are on your second bottle of wine more nights than you want to admit. You got the tattoo. That is not you being impulsive, flaky, or self-destructive. That is grief taking the wheel. In episode four of the six-part Common Grief Reactions series, Dr. Heather Taylor gets into the behavioral side of grief, the part that shows up in your daily habits, your relationships, your phone, your pantry, and your couch. The part that tends to carry the most shame and gets explained away as stress or a personality change or just a weird phase, when really it is grief trying to metabolize itself through action, avoidance, or control. If you have ever looked at what you have been doing since your loss and thought "what is wrong with me," this episode is for you. Nothing is wrong with you. You are grieving, and those two things explain a lot. In this episode you will learn: Why grief changes not just how you feel but what you actually doThe two ends of the behavioral grief spectrum: over-functioning and under-functioning, and why both are protectiveWhy most grieving people cycle between both and what that cycling actually looks likeThe most common numbing behaviors in grief, including alcohol use, doom scrolling, impulse decisions, and perpetual busyness, and why none of them are moral failuresHow to tell the difference between coping and avoidance, and why that distinction mattersWhy staying perpetually busy is one of the most sophisticated and culturally approved numbing behaviors we haveHow to get curious about your grief behaviors without shaming yourself for any of themThe one question to ask yourself when you want to understand what a behavior is really about Behavioral grief patterns discussed in this episode: Over-functioning, under-functioning, grief avoidance, numbing behaviors, alcohol use after loss, doom scrolling, impulse decisions, isolation, social withdrawal, grief and anger, grief and irritability, busyness as avoidance, grief coping strategies, grief behaviors, grief and control Story Time with Heather: Dr. Taylor shares what happened the week after her brother died, when she poured herself and her whole grieving family into making holiday gift card aprons for Barnes and Noble, and what it taught her about over-functioning as a grief response. She also talks about her depression slippers, the one-year anniversary, and what it looked like when the over-functioning finally gave way. STAY Framework connection: This episode works with two letters. T, Track the Loss, which means tracing a behavior back to its source and asking what loss is actually underneath it. And Y, Yield to the Moment, which means responding to what is genuinely needed right now, not what your pre-grief self would have done or what the productivity app on your phone is telling you to do. Practical tools from this episode: Replace judgment with curiosity: shift from "what is wrong with me" to "what is my grief asking for right now"Pick one small anchoring habit to create a thread of predictability in an unpredictable seasonName the behavior as grief out loud: "I am not flaky, I am grieving"Ask the core question: is this behavior helping me move through grief or helping me move away from it? Series navigation: Episode 1: Physical Grief Reactions: When Loss Lives in the BodyEpisode 2: Emotional Grief Reactions: The Feelings Nobody Puts in a Sympathy CardEpisode 3: Cognitive Grief Reactions: Grief Brain Is RealEpisode 4: Behavioral Grief Reactions: Why Grief Changes What You Do (you are here)Episode 5: Spiritual and Existential Grief Reactions (coming next)Episode 6: Social Grief Reactions ------------------------------------- Grief is not a problem to solve. It is a human experience to move through, and most of us were never taught how. Grief is the New Normal is hosted by Dr. Heather Taylor, licensed psychologist and grief specialist with over a decade of experience in grief, trauma, and reproductive psychology. This show exists to change the conversation around loss by expanding what grief looks like, who it belongs to, and what it actually means to integrate it into your life. Whether you're grieving a death, a diagnosis, a relationship, an identity shift, or the world as you knew it, your grief is real, it deserves space, and you are not behind. And if you're a clinician, coach, or helper carrying your own grief while holding space for others, this show was built for you too. Dr. Taylor brings research-informed frameworks, honest clinical perspective, and the STAY framework, a grief-informed approach to living with loss that goes far beyond the five stages. Expect nuance, depth, and conversations that take grief seriously. No toxic positivity. No fixing. Just honest conversation, ...
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    18 min
  • Grief is the New Normal Podcast: S3E20 Grief, EMDR, and Disneyland: Finding Joy in the Mess with Jessica Vickers, LMFT

    Grief is the New Normal Podcast: S3E20 Grief, EMDR, and Disneyland: Finding Joy in the Mess with Jessica Vickers, LMFT
    18 Jun 2026
    Grief is not just about death. It lives inside fertility journeys, inside the waiting and the not knowing, inside the losses that do not come with funerals or casseroles or anyone checking in six months later. And sometimes it lives right alongside joy, which is one of the most disorienting and least talked about parts of the whole experience. In this episode, Dr. Heather Taylor sits down with Jessica Vickers, licensed marriage and family therapist, certified perinatal mental health counselor, EMDR clinician, and founder of the Happiest Healers Club. Jessica shares her own grief story, her clinical approach to perinatal and infertility loss, how EMDR supports grief integration, and why therapists need community and play just as much as their clients do. This one is warm, real, a little bit Disney-filled, and deeply human. In this episode you will learn: What ambiguous grief looks like in the context of infertility and the perinatal journey, and why it is one of the hardest grief types to holdHow EMDR supports grief processing by moving the nervous system from maladaptive beliefs toward adaptive meaning-makingWhy the second and third pregnancy losses hit differently, and how to support clients who are still in the middle of not knowingWhat continuing bonds look like in practice, including how Jessica stays connected to her dad and her best friend through Disneyland, Groot ears, and tree plantingWhy nothing good happens when we are dysregulated, and what to do before you act on grief or rage or fearHow to talk about your grief with new people in your life who never knew your personWhat survivor guilt sounds like in grief, and how to gently challenge itHow EMDR physically calms the body before it works on the storyWhy therapist burnout is a grief response too, and what the Happiest Healers Club is doing about it Topics and concepts discussed in this episode: Ambiguous grief, infertility grief, perinatal loss, miscarriage, pregnancy loss, EMDR for grief, bilateral stimulation, grief integration, continuing bonds, survivor guilt, grief and joy, caregiver fatigue, anticipatory grief, disenfranchised grief, grief and the nervous system, clinician burnout, therapist self-care, meaning-making after loss, grief and community ----------------------------- Jessica Vickers is a licensed marriage & family therapist, and also a certified perinatal mental health counselor. Jessica has been a therapist for over 13 years, and specializes in working with women of color and women going through the perinatal journey. Jessica utilizes EMDR in her virtual private practice. She is a Black woman, a wife, a mom, and the founder of The Happiest Healers Club. @jessicavickersmft on Instagram -------------------------------- Grief is not a problem to solve. It is a human experience to move through, and most of us were never taught how. Grief is the New Normal is hosted by Dr. Heather Taylor, licensed psychologist and grief specialist with over a decade of experience in grief, trauma, and reproductive psychology. This show exists to change the conversation around loss by expanding what grief looks like, who it belongs to, and what it actually means to integrate it into your life. Whether you're grieving a death, a diagnosis, a relationship, an identity shift, or the world as you knew it, your grief is real, it deserves space, and you are not behind. And if you're a clinician, coach, or helper carrying your own grief while holding space for others, this show was built for you too. Dr. Taylor brings research-informed frameworks, honest clinical perspective, and the STAY framework, a grief-informed approach to living with loss that goes far beyond the five stages. Expect nuance, depth, and conversations that take grief seriously. No toxic positivity. No fixing. Just honest conversation, real validation, and a community built around grief literacy, disenfranchised grief, anticipatory grief, collective grief, and the full spectrum of human loss. grief support podcast · disenfranchised grief · anticipatory grief · grief after loss · grief for clinicians · grief-informed care · grief literacy · coping with grief · grief and identity · mental health and grief · reproductive grief · pet loss grief · collective trauma and grief · grief integration · STAY framework New episodes dropping regularly Connect with Dr. Heather Taylor: Website: griefisthenewnormal.com Instagram: @grief_is_the_new_normal Substack: How We STAY with Grief https://drheathertaylor.substack.com/ Newsletter: Bridging the Grief Gap on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-taylor-psyd-licensed-psychologist/ Journal: Authentically Unapologetic, available on Amazon https://a.co/d/0dM0DloC Contact: hello@griefisthenewnormal.com This episode is sponsored by Oasys EHR. Try Oasys free for your first month. Use code HEATHER-2865 at oasysehr.com. Music by The Dadicorns. Copyright 2026.
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    53 min
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