Lucas and Allison break down the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City fight between best friends Mary and Angie, plus Lucas’s Disney World trip, a Target checkout gone wrong, and why Disney outfit etiquette matters.

Lucas records remotely from Florida with the worst lighting of his life, and Allison brings the sandwich shop story that started it all. They also get into the Salt Lake City episode that made them both say “I’m done watching.” They argue about what real friendship looks like when two people are both going through it, and whether a misunderstanding can ever excuse how Mary treated Angie.

In this episode:

• Real Housewives of Salt Lake City: Mary and Angie’s fight and the Reiki healer disaster
• Disney World with Lucas’s grandma, and what NOT to wear in a theme park
• The Target cashier who made a customer 102 years old
• Allison’s sandwich shop sighting and the volleyball shorts
• Daylight savings vs. Allison’s dog, plus Cub Scout dens, packs, and troops
• Why Lucas keeps running into other Lucases, and getting recognized at Disney

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Allison Hadley and Lucas Herren recap celebrity Halloween costumes, start a Glee binge, and catch up on Real Housewives of New York, Salt Lake City, and The Golden Life.

They’re best friends who finish each other’s sentences, which is great for friendship and terrible for a podcast. This week they tell the story of a 15-minute argument at Disney World’s California Grill, when they were each talking about a different woman at the bar. They also debate the “two beers and a puppy” test for judging someone’s character, argue over whether Glee holds up, and share opinions on RHONY’s private island drama and the stolen flowers at a Salt Lake City lunch.

In this episode:

• Celebrity Halloween costumes, including Lisa Rinna as Kylie Jenner
• The California Grill celebrity lookalike mix-up
• Their Glee highlights binge: Sue Sylvester, Rachel Berry, and teenage pregnancy
• The “two beers and a puppy” litmus test
• Real Housewives of New York City, Salt Lake City, and The Golden Life
• A preview of Lucas’s Disney World trip with his grandma

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Allison Hadley and Lucas Herren debate the Verity movie (Team Letter vs. Team Manuscript), break down the Elizabeth Holmes documentary You Can See Everything, and react to The Golden Life, the new E! show with the original Real Housewives of New York stars.

This week was heavy on movies and chaos. They disagree on how much the Theranos investors should have asked, and they land on the same side of the Verity debate when neither expected to. Along the way: Drake’s 40th birthday, a mail-in stool test, and what each of them would get arrested for.

Spoiler warning: the Verity discussion covers the full plot and ending.

In this episode:

• Verity movie: Team Letter vs. Team Manuscript, and why Jeremy is the villain either way
• You Can See Everything, the Elizabeth Holmes documentary with Nathan Fielder, and Billy Evans
• The Golden Life premiere on E! with Ramona, Luann, Sonja, Kelly, and Dorinda
• Drake’s 40th birthday party, cape and Backstreet Boys included
• Friend-group conversations: Cologuard, hemorrhoid myths, and who would win a fight
• Dancing with the Stars: double elimination preview

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