What should kids and leaders actually be learning today?

In this episode of Game On, Abhishek Shah, Moustafa El Chiati, and Fahmi Al Shawwa discuss Norway’s youth sports model, why early pressure can burn kids out, and whether range matters more than specialization.

The conversation moves into business and careers, asking what makes stronger leaders today: deep specialization, broad exposure, or the ability to keep learning across different stages.

What you will learn in this episode

• Why Norway keeps producing elite athletes
• How early competition affects children
• Why parents may be adding too much pressure
• The case for range over early specialization
• What generalists and specialists bring to business
• How CEOs change from 0 to 1 and 1 to 100
• Why some leaders thrive in crisis
• Books and frameworks mentioned in the episode

Key Moments

00:00 Getting older and changing perspectives
06:30 Norway’s dominance in the Winter Olympics
09:00 No competition before age 13
14:00 Parenting, sports pressure, and burnout
20:00 Why range may matter more than specialization
27:00 Generalists vs specialists in business
39:00 Building companies from 0 to 1 vs 1 to 100
44:00 Book recommendations and closing thoughts

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What should children actually be learning today?

In this episode of Game On, Abhishek Shah, Moustafa El Chiati, and Fahmi Al Shawwa talk through why they started the podcast and what they want it to become.

They revisit where the idea began and why documenting real conversations felt important.

The discussion moves into education. Are schools preparing kids for today’s world, or still operating on outdated systems?

They break down the gap between what is taught and what actually matters. Skills like sales, networking, public speaking, financial literacy, and self-learning.

The conversation expands into the business of education, comparing for-profit and nonprofit models, and questioning whether student outcomes or returns drive decisions.

What you will learn in this episode

• Why the current education system is being questioned
• The real skills schools do not teach
• How parents are rethinking success for their children
• The role of self-learning and curiosity going forward
• Why degrees still matter and where they are losing relevance
• The difference between for-profit and nonprofit education models
• How AI is already changing hiring and productivity
• What leaders need to expect from teams in an AI-driven world

Key Moments

00:00 Why the podcast started
01:00 The Sri Lanka idea
03:00 Defining success for the podcast
05:00 Rethinking success for kids
06:25 Education system at an inflection point
08:00 Skills not taught in school
10:40 Is a degree still needed
12:00 Self-learning and curiosity
22:00 AI and job disruption
31:00 Trust and the darker side of AI

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Abhishek Shah
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Moustafa El Chiati
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Fahmi Al Shawwa
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