Episode 12 and in this episode I am in conversation with best selling author John Williams.

"How do you advise people to break the rules? What is your custom answer when they say they're going to break the rules or want to break the rules? 

I think it's in people already. Some people are naturally fairly conventional people and some people are not.

And most people have a creative or entrepreneurial drive have something of a, of an unconventional part to them. And that's probably what this. 

The idea is for this next book, it's about taking that part of you. It's different. It might be newer diversity, which you talk about, or it might be a different take on the world or some painful experience you've been through that's fueling you to be ambitious and making that.

Part of what you do, and so you, I'm really just encouraging people to be themselves because that's where the weirdness comes from. I quote in, in F work, Brian Eno, and he says, ........"

This is an except from our conversation.  

We spoke at length about dyslexia, ADHD and John's perspective on both.  We spoke about leadership in business and how these affect business and so much more

It was a fascinating conversation from which I know you will learn a whole bunch.

You can connect with John on LinkedIn via the link.

This is John's website and where you can find out more about John and get his books.  Just follow this link.

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I trust you have a great day and look forward to seeing you on the next episode.