Burnout is unmanaged chronic stress, and you can't yoga your way out of it. Burnout and emotional intelligence coach Marla Dziedzic, owner of Evolve Consulting, explains how to tell burnout from depression and what actually helps you recover.

Marla has spent more than 25 years in learning and development, including 15 years in healthcare building well-being programs for physicians and advanced practice providers. She is certified to administer the EQ-i 2.0 emotional intelligence assessment. Host Melissa Goodwin asks her about her own burnout story, compassion fatigue, why leaders set the tone for a team's well-being, and why CEOs are telling graduates to build their EQ.

• How Marla defines burnout, and the three things the American Medical Association says it causes
• How to tell burnout from depression, and why your primary care provider is the first call
• The signs of burnout a spouse or colleague notices before you do
• What compassion fatigue is, and how it differs from burnout
• Why a vacation or a massage will not fix burnout on its own
• The free Mini Z self-check from the American Medical Association
• Why "delegation is not dumping" and how to build a stop-doing list
• What emotional intelligence is, the five EQ-i 2.0 composites, and why EQ can grow when IQ cannot
• Why a whole-team meeting rarely fixes a two-person conflict
• Whether AI brain fry is a new kind of burnout

• 0:00 What burnout is, in one sentence
• 1:07 Meet Marla Dziedzic of Evolve Consulting
• 4:05 What is wrong with pushing through
• 5:07 Marla's own burnout story
• 6:32 What burnout actually is
• 7:00 The candle analogy for burnout
• 7:45 Burnout vs depression: how to tell
• 8:55 Signs of burnout in you or a colleague
• 9:45 Burnout early in a demanding career
• 11:15 What is compassion fatigue?
• 13:36 Physical symptoms of burnout
• 14:45 How leaders should check in
• 15:52 Why 69% of employees look to their leader
• 16:34 The Stanford model of well-being
• 18:05 Leaders model the behavior
• 19:51 Mini Z: a free burnout self-check
• 20:42 How to find the right coach
• 21:58 You can't yoga your way out of burnout
• 23:49 Coach or therapist? Where the line is
• 25:38 Small changes that reduce burnout
• 26:56 Delegation is not dumping
• 29:01 Organization or individual: who fixes burnout?
• 30:19 What is emotional intelligence?
• 31:28 Strategic responder vs reactor
• 33:45 The EQ-i 2.0 assessment explained
• 35:31 EQ vs IQ: which one can change
• 38:25 Where EQ gaps show up by industry
• 41:31 Reality testing: the skill that changes the most
• 42:19 DiSC, Myers-Briggs and EQ compared
• 44:34 How to fix conflict on a team
• 47:50 Can high EQ people still burn out?
• 48:54 Why CEOs are talking about EQ
• 50:03 Is emotional intelligence just a trend?
• 51:34 AI brain fry and cognitive overload
• 53:10 Doing the work of three people
• 55:04 Do moms get burned out?
• 56:13 Systems that protect your time
• 58:53 First step for a small team
• 1:00:00 Working with Evolve Consulting
• 1:01:26 How to reach Marla

Marla Dziedzic is the owner of Evolve Consulting, a burnout and emotional intelligence coach who works with leaders, teams and individuals. evolveconsultingsd.com

• Mini Z burnout survey, American Medical Association
• Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman
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Healing with horses: a horse reads what you are carrying and shows it back to you. Dr. Kimberly Ammerman, pharmacist and founder of Healing Hearts with Horses, explains what horses pick up on that people miss.

Dr. Kimberly Ammerman is a practicing pharmacist, a lifelong horsewoman and a coach. She keeps 17 horses on 100 acres in the Black Hills near Whitewood, South Dakota. Host Melissa Goodwin asks what really happens in a session, how this is different from equine therapy, and who it is for.

• Why a horse runs when an anxious person steps into the round pen, and walks right up to a calm one
• What "the horse mirrors you" means in plain words
• Why Dr. Kimberly trains horses and will not "break" them
• What happens in a session, and why grooming a horse can be the whole lesson
• The man who called it stupid, and what a horse named Oakley did next
• How equine-assisted coaching is different from equine therapy
• Whether you need horse experience (you do not), and what if horses scare you
• How Dr. Kimberly trains other people to do this work, in three levels
• Her answer to "this sounds a little woo woo"

• 0:00 What a horse does when an anxious person walks in
• 0:35 Meet Dr. Kimberly Ammerman: pharmacist, horsewoman, healer
• 1:12 Why she became a pharmacist
• 2:46 The drive home from Denver that started it all
• 4:56 The farrier's girlfriend becomes her first client
• 7:39 Why she does not use a barn
• 8:12 Growing up on horseback: Sugar and Tiny
• 10:15 Training a horse without breaking its spirit
• 12:03 What "horse whisperer" really means
• 12:22 Misty and Starfellow: trading horses with her twin brother
• 14:27 Working cattle and the barbed wire fence
• 16:35 What do horses pick up on that people miss?
• 17:59 How a horse mirrors your energy
• 18:36 What happens in a session: on the ground, no riding
• 19:36 "I don't think this horse likes me"
• 21:50 Coach, not therapist: the man who called it stupid
• 24:17 Who comes to Healing Hearts with Horses?
• 24:55 What if you are afraid of horses?
• 26:03 Training others: the three-level program
• 28:29 Is this too woo woo?
• 29:45 What to wear and what a retreat is like
• 30:50 If you feel stuck, start here
• 31:58 How to find Healing Hearts with Horses

Dr. Kimberly Ammerman, PharmD, is a Doctor of Pharmacy, a practicing pharmacist, a published author and the founder of Healing Hearts with Horses. She has been riding since she was three. She offers equine-assisted coaching, retreats, private sessions and a three-level training program.

• Website: healingheartswithhorses.com
• Retreats: healingheartswithhorses.com/retreats
• Training: healingheartswithhorses.com/certification
• Facebook: Healing Hearts with Horses
• Instagram: @healing.hearts.with.horses

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This episode is educational and informational only. It is not medical advice and is not a substitute for evaluation, diagnosis or treatment by a licensed provider. Healing Hearts with Horses offers equine-assisted coaching and personal-development programs. These are coaching services. They are not psychotherapy, counseling or medical care.

Tantrum vs meltdown: a tantrum can be bargained with. A meltdown is an overwhelmed nervous system, and reasoning will not reach it. Pediatric occupational therapist Kristin Wittmayer explains the difference and what to do in the moment.

Kristin Wittmayer, MS, OTR/L, is a pediatric occupational therapist with 20 years of experience and the Director of Move U, a pediatric therapy clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Host Melissa Goodwin asks how to tell a tantrum from a meltdown, when "just a phase" is worth a phone call, and why Move U builds its sessions on DIR Floortime.

• How a meltdown differs from a tantrum, and why bartering stops working
• What to do in the moment: get to their level, stop talking, give space and time
• The empty threat, and why follow through matters
• How to tell a phase from something that keeps coming back
• Why a sticker chart works for behavior and not for sensory overload
• Picky eating: the sensory side and the oral motor side
• Engine speeds: too slow, too fast and just right
• Why parents are the child's safe person, and have to regulate first
• What DIR Floortime is, and how Kristin compares it with ABA
• Four myths, answered: boys talk late, therapy needs a diagnosis, tantrums are manipulation, child-led play teaches nothing
• Insurance, session length and how often kids come to Move U

• 0:00 Tantrum or meltdown? What this episode covers
• 0:23 Welcome to Dialed In Health
• 1:04 Meet Kristin Wittmayer, pediatric occupational therapist
• 1:48 What is Move U?
• 3:13 Why would a parent call a pediatric OT?
• 4:42 What is happening at home before the first call
• 6:15 Picky eating: sensory or oral motor?
• 7:11 Why Move U was built in Sioux Falls
• 9:23 Is it just a phase? How to tell
• 10:37 Who Move U works with
• 12:38 Signs it is time to call
• 13:34 Connection over compliance
• 14:25 What is DIR Floortime?
• 15:57 Why Move U chose DIR Floortime
• 16:49 Neurodiversity affirming play, explained
• 18:38 Motor planning: why play matters
• 20:18 DIR Floortime vs ABA therapy
• 21:29 What the research says about Floortime
• 22:27 Behavior is communication
• 24:38 Fidgeting in class: what is typical?
• 25:47 Tantrum vs meltdown: the difference
• 28:01 What parents do that makes it worse
• 28:43 What to do during a meltdown
• 29:56 How to prevent the next one
• 31:47 Band-aid strategies vs the root cause
• 33:01 What a regulated child looks like
• 34:08 Why parents have to regulate first
• 35:45 Myth: boys talk late
• 36:52 Myth: therapy is only for kids with a diagnosis
• 37:44 Myth: a tantrum is manipulation
• 38:59 Myth: child-led play teaches nothing
• 40:16 What parents can stop feeling guilty about
• 41:21 Insurance, cost and session length
• 43:27 How often kids come to therapy
• 44:24 How to find Move U
• 45:11 Thanks for watching

Kristin Wittmayer, MS, OTR/L, is a pediatric occupational therapist and the Director of Move U. She is certified in sensory processing and integration and in DIR Floortime. Move U offers pediatric occupational, physical and speech therapy, from infancy through the teen years.

Move U, 5020 S Tennis Ln Ste 6, Sioux Falls, SD 57108
(605) 409-9533
themoveu.com

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