What happens when you make over a million dollars in revenue and still can't help your spouse pay the mortgage? Leanne Ozaine, profit coach and creator of the Two Number Method, lived this nightmare and discovered the difference between revenue and profit.

In this conversation, Leanne shares the dark moment her husband asked where a million dollars went, the banking exercise that revealed the truth, and her "Yes Test" that separates true business investments from business spending with good stories. This episode will blow up the biggest money lie in business: that making more money will solve your cash flow problems.

Key Learning Points

• The Million Dollar Paradox - How to make over $1 million in revenue and still have zero profit to show for it
• The Banking Exercise - Going line by line through bank statements with one question: "Would I spend this money again in a heartbeat?"
• The Yes Test - Separating true business investments (dollars that come back with friends) from business spending with good stories
• Revenue vs. Profit Psychology - Why high revenue with low profit is not success, despite what business culture tells us
• The Two Number Method - Tracking both revenue and profit as equally important metrics
• Books vs. Bank Statements - Why your P&L shows where money went by categories, but bank statements show the results and intent
• Investment vs. Spending - The difference between money that multiplies and money that disappears with a good story

Guest Information

Leanne Ozaine is a profit coach and creator of the Two Number Method. After making over a million dollars in revenue and nearly losing everything, she developed a system that helps business owners distinguish between true investments and business spending with good stories. Her approach focuses on profit psychology and the truth about what really drives sustainable business growth.

Connect with Leanne:

• Website: www.profitwithleanne.com
• Free Resource: The Profit Paradox Guide at gift.profitwithleanne.com

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Resources Mentioned

• The Two Number Method
• The Profit Paradox Guide
• The "Yes Test" for evaluating expenses
• Free Wealth Alignment Call with Lisa Marie
• Transcendent Wealth Co services

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Ever had a strong revenue month but still felt anxious instead of celebrating? You're experiencing the gap between making money and managing money. In this solo episode, Lisa Marie breaks down why these are two completely different skill sets and why mastering one while ignoring the other leaves even high-earning business owners feeling unsettled.

Through real scenarios and practical insights, she reveals why your bank balance doesn't tell the whole story, how "undefined money equals uncertainty," and the one question that will change how you see your finances for good.

Key Learning Points

• Making vs. Managing Money - Two completely different skill sets: making is about visibility and growth, managing is about allocation and clarity
• The Bank Balance Illusion - Your total balance isn't your available balance - your brain treats all money as "fully yours" even when it's already committed
• Why Undefined Money Creates Stress - When dollars lack direction, your nervous system stays braced asking, "Will I have enough for taxes/payroll/myself?"
• The Power of Money Jobs - When every dollar has a purpose, your nervous system relaxes because uncertainty disappears
• The Real-Life Scenario - Why a $65K month can feel stressful instead of celebratory without proper allocation clarity
• From Accidental Income to Intentional Wealth - Growth feels powerful instead of scary when managing grows alongside making
• Leadership Requires Both - Momentum AND direction are essential for sustainable business growth

Memorable Quotes

"Making money and managing money are two completely different skill sets, and most business owners master one while ignoring the other." - The fundamental disconnect

"Money feels very loud when it lacks direction. If every dollar has a purpose, your nervous system relaxes." - Why allocation creates calm

"Your brain treats that number like it's fully yours even when it's not. When you make decisions based on what you're seeing, you're operating off incomplete information." - The bank balance trap

"Undefined money equals uncertainty. And uncertainty equals stress." - The anxiety equation

"Stop asking 'how much did I make?' Instead, start asking 'what job does this money need to do?' That one shift will change how you see everything." - The reframe that changes everything

"That's the difference between accidental income and intentional wealth." - The goal we're working toward

Tired of spinning your wheels and ready for real clarity on your money? Let’s talk.

I’m inviting you to a complimentary CEO Money Power Hour- this isn’t another stuffy, no-pressure sales call. This is a no-BS, roll-up-your-sleeves strategy session designed to give you immediate insight into your business finances.

In our hour together, we will:

• Get crystal clear on where your business is right now—the good, the bad, and the ugly.
• Pinpoint the exact money challenges and profit leaks that are secretly holding you back from your next level.
• Define what you really need in a strategic partner to finally achieve the financial freedom you’re working so hard for.
• Explore if my Fractional CFO services are the key to unlocking your vision for unapologetic wealth.

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What if selling doesn't have to feel like convincing, and money doesn't have to feel like fighting? In this powerful conversation, Lisa Marie sits down with neuro-resilience specialist Kirstin Carey, who's built multiple six and seven-figure businesses over 30 years, all while healing from two autoimmune conditions and learning that success means nothing if burnout takes over.

Kirstin reveals why your relationship with money was locked in by age seven, how to shift from "convincing" to curiosity in sales, and why the energy you bring to money and sales conversations determines everything. Through raw stories and practical insights, this episode will transform how you think about sales, money flow, and building wealth without burning out.

Key Learning Points

• Money as energy exchange - Your relationship with money is formed by age seven based on the "frequency" you absorbed from those around you
• Why selling feels hard - When you try to convince instead of understand, you create combative energy that clients can feel
• The curiosity shift - Moving from "let me tell you why this is good" to "let me understand what you need" changes everything
• Detached commitment - Being committed to your outcome without being attached to any individual result
• The value conversation - When someone says, "it's too expensive," they're telling you their current value set, not making a judgment about you
• Fighting vs. flowing - Masculine "push" energy vs. feminine "flow" energy in business and money relationships
• The health program story - Real example of how someone's internal value system determines their buying decisions
• Frequency and flow states - How the government spends billions studying flow states and how you can access them

Memorable Quotes

"If selling feels hard, you're doing it wrong." - Kirstin's fundamental principle about sales

"Your relationship with money is pretty much locked in by the time you're seven years old based on how the people around you were relating to money." - The origin of money patterns

"All we want is to be seen, heard, and understood. If you take the position of 'I'm just trying to understand,' it changes the entire frequency of the conversation." - The power of curiosity in sales

"When somebody's telling you something's too expensive, what they're just telling you is where their value set is. That's it." - Reframing price objections

"If I see someone who's

Tired of spinning your wheels and ready for real clarity on your money? Let’s talk.

I’m inviting you to a complimentary CEO Money Power Hour- this isn’t another stuffy, no-pressure sales call. This is a no-BS, roll-up-your-sleeves strategy session designed to give you immediate insight into your business finances.

In our hour together, we will:

• Get crystal clear on where your business is right now—the good, the bad, and the ugly.
• Pinpoint the exact money challenges and profit leaks that are secretly holding you back from your next level.
• Define what you really need in a strategic partner to finally achieve the financial freedom you’re working so hard for.
• Explore if my Fractional CFO services are the key to unlocking your vision for unapologetic wealth.

Book Your CEO Money Power Hour Call HERE

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