On this episode, we build with Mary Laurence McMillan Crook. Lovingly known as ML, she is the Executive Director of Camp Seafarer, where she leads more than 1,000 campers, counselors and volunteers each summer.

ML has been in my life since childhood. We went to the same schools, church and played copious amounts of flag football together. I'm thrilled to get her on the mic!

It was no surprise that we spanned lots of topics during this conversation. ML highlighted what life at camp is like and how they offer a unique setting for anyone on site. We talked about our shared experience of losing a parent and how that's affected each of us. ML shared how important rhythms and routines can be at home and at camp. We talked about the power of community and how we as humans need community to thrive. Along with so much more!

ML has long been one of my favorite people in my life and I'm so honored and glad she accepted my invitation to join the pod for this episode.

I hope you'll enjoy this wide ranging conversation!

Books Referenced:

• Love Does by Bob Goff
• Habits of the Household by Justin Whitmel Earley
• Hunt, Gather, Parent by Michaeleen Doucleff

Find more about Camp Seafarer and Camp Seagull here: https://www.seagull-seafarer.org/

On this episode, we Build with Zack Stone. Zack is a second-time guest as he joined us on episode 38 with his business partner, Joel Fleming, to discuss all things real estate and life.

In this episode we discuss kidnapping, water-skiing, Stoicism, decision making, juicing an onion, how we are finite, weight loss, diet, optionality and so much more. As you can see, we touched a lot of topics. Zack has one of the most unique perspectives of anyone in my life and it was a pleasure to have him on!

Zack graduated from Wake Forest University with a degree in Business and Enterprise Management. Over the years that followed, Zack started and successfully closed a private debt fund, assisted several small businesses as a consultant, started a private equity search fund and now runs Devereaux alongside Joel.

Please enjoy this wide-ranging conversation with Zack Stone!

Books Referenced:

1. Eat to Live
2. The Stoic Challenge
3. How Not to Die
4. Discourses of Epictetus

This is a special "Podcast Takeover"!

Our friend, Joel Fleming, takes the mic as host of this special episode of The Build with Clay Podcast. Joel knows what the people want - and it's an interview with Clay and his brother, Jamie Davis.

In this episode, Joel spends the first 25 minutes asking Clay and Jamie to answer get-to-know-you questions, weaving between serious and not-so-serious. Joel then has the brothers dive into their lives and how they were impacted by fatherhood and losing their father to ALS. Discussion leads into how their perspective on work has evolved and how the word "love" is now used in the Davis household.

Enjoy!

Book Referenced:

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer