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What if healing is not about fixing what is broken, but about making space for every part of who we are—the light and the shadow, the body and the soul, and even the stories carried through generations? Welcome to Awe in Trauma. In this deeply nourishing episode, I’m joined by Nancy Tung, an international Brainspotting trainer and consultant, wellness coach, and practitioner whose remarkable career spans more than 40 years across medicine, public health, mental health and holistic wellbeing.

Nancy’s journey—from Taiwan to Canada and the United States, and through nursing, acupuncture, energy medicine, family systems and Brainspotting—has shaped a distinctive multicultural approach to healing. She calls this integration of body and soul “soulmatic” work: a way of listening beyond words and meeting human experience with curiosity, compassion and respect for the wisdom already within us.

Together, we explore Nancy’s powerful image of “holding the universe” for a client, how Yin and Yang can help us welcome our proud, critical, vulnerable and resilient parts, and how safety may begin with something as small as a remembered pet, a familiar object, a movement or a piece of music. Nancy also reveals how ancestral mapping can honour inherited pain while reconnecting us with the strength and resources of generations further back.

This is a warm, expansive conversation about culture, relationship and the courage to become whole. If you are a therapist, practitioner, or simply curious about a gentler and more deeply embodied path through trauma, this episode offers a fresh way to understand healing—and an invitation to discover the wisdom your body and soul may already remember.

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Dr Alessia Bruno is a Clinical and Sport Psychologist, EMDR Europe and Brainspotting Consultant, Trainer, and Performance Coach. She speaks at major international and European congresses, lectures at national sport events, and leads accredited courses. An expert in trauma and performance, Dr Alessia Bruno works internationally with young people and adults.

Today’s episode is one I’m excited about because our guest isn’t just an accomplished clinical psychologist, but also a close friend whose work always sparks new ideas. Fresh from presenting at the Hong Kong Performance and Sport Psychology World Congress, Alessia brings a unique blend of expertise and creativity to our conversation.

We’ll dive into innovative ways of understanding ourselves, exploring how stories shape both mind and body, and why all of life can be seen as performance—not just the big moments, but the everyday ones too. Our guest encourages us to expand our sense of self, connecting with others, our ancestors, and embracing the interconnectivity of all things.

We’ll also unpack Brainspotting—a fascinating technique for unlocking deep issues, rooted in neurobiology and designed to help us grow and heal. If you’re curious about these approaches to performance or interested in training, our guest is happy to connect and share more.

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There’s a gentle magic that unfolds when you encounter someone who embodies a rare harmony—deep knowledge, ancestral wisdom, and an effortless grace in sharing their insights. This is the gift you receive in the presence of Mariya Javed-Payne, whose story invites us to move beyond simply looking, to truly seeing.

Mariya Javed-Payne is a Licensed Independent Clinical Social Worker, Alcohol and Drug Counselor, and International Brainspotting Trainer and Consultant. As a somatic psychotherapist and owner of Awaken Consulting Services, she provides Brainspotting therapy, training, and consultation in trauma treatment, somatic psychotherapies, psychedelic-assisted therapy, anti-racism, and ancestral healing. Her practice integrates psychedelic medicines and non-ordinary states—such as ketamine, cannabis, and breathwork—with somatic therapy and Brainspotting. Bridging the mystical and scientific, she has trained thousands of therapists and healers to offer attuned, trauma-responsive care through a post-colonial, earth-honouring lens.

Listening to her story is more than an experience; it’s an enrichment. She navigates the delicate dance between traditional Eastern healing and contemporary Western scientific approaches, illuminating the necessity of difference and the wisdom found in our moments of pain and division. These inflection points become our teachers, guiding us gently towards deeper consciousness.

In a world that often feels distorted and troubled—a society that can harm the earth and its creatures—Mariya offers hope. Through altered states of consciousness and awareness, she reminds us that from plant medicine to Brainspotting, there is immense potential in remembering our heritage and reconnecting with the essence of ourselves, our communities, and our planet.

Her story is a gentle, loving invitation to return home—to see with the heart, to embrace the wisdom that lies beneath the surface, and to honour the journey of learning and healing. It is a call to cherish the beauty of true seeing, and to let it transform the way we live, love, and grow.

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