Episodes

  • Discounted Roth Rollovers and Getting Work Optional in 3 to 5 Years with Keith Blackborg and Abel Pacheco | 5 Talents Podcast
    22 Oct 2026

    Recorded September 2, 2021.
    Keith Blackborg, a CPA, tax strategist and founder of Financial Journey, joins Abel Pacheco to explain how to treat your wealth as a business and become work optional in 3 to 5 years. He walks through the discounted rollover, where a syndication investment moves from a traditional solo 401(k) to a Roth while its valuation is temporarily low, which he says can cut the tax on the conversion by 30% to 70% under the tax rules at the time. He also covers why a business that runs without you sells for a much higher multiple.
    Find Keith at financialjourney.life.
    5 Talents Podcast with Abel Pacheco.

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    45 min
  • From a Family Gas Station to Ground-Up Multifamily Development with Ahmed Seirafi and Abel Pacheco | 5 Talents Podcast
    22 Oct 2026

    Recorded March 4, 2021.
    Ahmed Seirafi, a Southern California developer who builds ground-up multifamily, joins Abel Pacheco to share how his father's gas station, sold for about $900,000, became the down payment on a $5.4 million Phoenix apartment property that later sold for around $20 million. He walks through his first deal, redeveloping an old pickle factory site with the city, what changes when a project grows from $5 million to $150 million, and his plan to build 1,000 units of active 55 plus housing while express car washes fund the business.
    Find Ahmed on Instagram as Ahmed the Real Estate Developer.
    5 Talents Podcast with Abel Pacheco.

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    41 min
  • From a 1 Acre Lot to $200 Million in Real Estate Deals with Jerome Maldonado and Abel Pacheco | 5 Talents Podcast
    22 Oct 2026

    Recorded March 11, 2021.
    Jerome Maldonado, a real estate developer and builder with 26 years in the business, joins Abel Pacheco to share how he went from $110,000 in debt in 1996 to more than $200 million in in-house real estate transactions. He walks through his first deal, a 1 acre lot he split in 2 for a $35,000 profit, the development model where selling 2/3 of a project pays for the 1/3 he keeps free and clear, how buying and depreciating new assets offsets his gains, and why he is building in Puerto Rico and Washington State.
    Find Jerome by searching Jerome Maldonado on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube.
    5 Talents Podcast with Abel Pacheco.

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    43 min
  • From Nutrition Stores to Passive Multifamily Real Estate Investing with Nate Ohlrich and Abel Pacheco | 5 Talents Podcast
    9 Oct 2026

    Recorded February 4, 2021.
    Nate Ohlrich, real estate investor and broker from Omaha, joins Abel Pacheco to share how he went from owning 8 nutrition stores across 3 states to investing actively and passively in more than 600 doors and $40M of real estate. They walk through the 5 steps that got him there: set your goals, know your why, educate yourself, network, and take action, plus what to look for before trusting a sponsorship team with your capital.
    Find Nate at natecre.com, where his book Fearless Investing is a free download.
    5 Talents Podcast with Abel Pacheco.

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    34 min
  • Reducing Taxes on Income, Real Estate, and Asset Sales with Mark Myers and Abel Pacheco | 5 Talents Podcast
    14 Sep 2026
    Recorded October 13, 2023. Mark Myers joins Abel Pacheco for a conversation about planning around business income, real estate ownership, and asset sales. They discuss why timing matters and which questions owners can bring to their tax advisers before a transaction. 5 Talents Podcast with Abel Pacheco.
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    44 min
  • From Nuclear Medicine to Multifamily Real Estate Syndication with Isaac Mathai and Abel Pacheco | 5 Talents Podcast
    11 Sep 2026
    Abel Pacheco speaks with Isaac Mathai about a career that moved from nuclear medicine technologist, to building a wedding venue from the ground up, to multifamily real estate syndication. They discuss what carried across from one to the next, the role mentorship and networking played in the move, how he learned to underwrite deals, and what he looks for in the people he builds with.
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    46 min
  • Building Financial, Time, and Geographic Freedom with Maurice Philogene and Abel Pacheco | 5 Talents Podcast
    11 Sep 2026
    Abel Pacheco speaks with Maurice Philogene about designing a life around three freedoms rather than one. They discuss why financial freedom on its own does not give you your time back, how geographic freedom changes what a portfolio has to be built for, and the trade-offs involved in getting there while still holding a demanding career.
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    41 min
  • Passive Investor Due Diligence Checklist for Multifamily Syndications with Lisa Hylton and Abel Pacheco | 5 Talents Podcast
    11 Sep 2026

    Abel Pacheco speaks with Lisa Hylton about what a passive investor should actually check before wiring money into a multifamily syndication. They walk through vetting the sponsor and the track record behind the pitch, reading the deal's assumptions rather than its projections, understanding the fee structure and where your money sits in the stack, and knowing the questions that separate a real operator from a good deck.

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    42 min