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Trading Beyond the Matrix

The Red Pill for Traders and Investors
De : Van Tharp
Durée : 11 h et 55 min
3,8 out of 5 stars (4 notations)
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How to transform your trading results by transforming yourself

In the unique arena of professional trading coaches and consultants, Van K. Tharp is an internationally recognized expert at helping others become the best traders they can be. In Trading Beyond the Matrix: The Red Pill for Traders and Investors, Tharp leads listeners to dramatically improve their trading results and financial life by looking within. He takes the reader by the hand through the steps of self-transformation, from incorporating "Tharp Think" - ideas drawn from his modeling work with great traders - making changes in yourself so that you can adopt the beliefs and attitudes necessary to win when you stop making mistakes and avoid methods that don't work. You'll change your level of consciousness so that you can avoiding trading out of fear and greed and move toward higher levels such as acceptance or joy.

  • A leading trader offers unique learning strategies for turning yourself into a great trader
  • Goes beyond trading systems to help listeners develop more effective trading psychology
  • Trains the listener to overcome self-sabotage that obstructs trading success
  • Presented through real transformations made by other traders

Advocating an unconventional approach to evaluating trading systems and beliefs, trading expert Van K. Tharp has produced a powerful manual every trader can use to make the best trades and optimize their success.

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brochure marketing du van tharp super trader progr

Trop focalisé sur la spiritualité du trader et la vente du programme avancé mais quelques méthodes et principes de base à retenir.

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  • Jonathan
  • 04/08/2013

Mostly advertisement

This books is mostly advertisement for other products the author offers (most cost several hundred dollars and some are not available anyway)
Even though i would not recommend this books at all, it does have some positive things (hence the reason i gave it 2 stars).
The book is written as several testimonials about how good Dr. Tharp's workshops are
The book is divided into 3 parts the first part Dr. Tharp emphasizes the importance of position sizing and says that one should have different systems for each different market (Bull, Bear, Etc).
unfortunately that's all the trading advice you'll get from the book after that the book becomes a self help, spiritual guide. Where Dr. Tharp students testify that trading in peace and accepting what the market does without the need to be right will make you happy.
I am sure that the 2nd and 3rd part (about physiology and spiritual awakening) will help some people...
But, as far as trading is concerned, the book and this review are equally helpful. The book might be a little deeper, but since the way that book is written is so convoluted even if you would like to go back and read again some part (that you found helpful) you actually need to read a whole chapter about how much good you will get from paying Dr. Tharp a few hundred dollars.

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  • Jinah
  • 02/03/2017

wasn't what i expected

some points about position sizing and trading

mostly some crap about oneness nothing useful

and a lot of useless marketing for authors other products

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  • Mamabear
  • 05/10/2014

Missed the target

What disappointed you about Trading Beyond the Matrix?

I was hoping to hear a book on investor psychology and got 11 hours of babbling. More of a sales pitch for trading programs than a helpful book.

What could Van Tharp have done to make this a more enjoyable book for you?

Not written a book.

Any additional comments?

Please send me a refund.

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  • bk
  • 30/12/2016

Stay away

This was not really a trading book. Focused on selling training classes, resolving psychological issues, and finding god.

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  • Khanh Nguyen
  • 28/12/2013

Very disappointed. I felt misled.

I was expecting another great Van Tharp book only to find out it wasn't written by him. Rather it was written by his students. The whole book talk about how God can help you with trading, and is all his students talk about is how great his paid courses. I feel like the whole book is advertisement to enroll in his Supertrader courses. I didn't learn anything from the audiobook. It was a waste of my time, and I had to skip a few chapters that was so boring, and non-trading related that I fell asleep. I was thoroughly disappointed.

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  • Helal S. Hamad
  • 24/12/2016

A book where are the author advertises for his training courses

The first part of the book was beneficial to the point that you can get something out of the book however the second part was all about people who benefit from the training course given by the author

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  • Josef
  • 12/10/2016

What a disappointment...

This is without a doubt an advertisement for his service. I have only listened to the first student go on and on how great Van Tharp is and I don't think I can stand to listen anymore. Read the Market Wizard series instead of this.

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  • FuManChou
  • 22/04/2015

No trading strategies in this book

If you are looking for trading strategies, look elsewhere. This book is about several super traders and their life journey and transformation of their beliefs. You may be disappointed if you are looking for tips on how to change your trading tactics and how to work on yourself. This book is more on the super trader program that Dr. Van Tharp offers and testimonials of his clients.

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  • California Tea House
  • 17/12/2013

Mixed feelings

Would you try another book from Van Tharp and/or Michael Butler Murray?

Thought provoking - yet all the examples in the book deal with Godless, near suicidal subjects. Would be great if this book was more tailored for the 'common' investor vs. someone with 3 limbs out the window. Honestly, Tharp's personal account makes you wonder about his own self-confidence and sanity. His past reads more like a self-help, find yourself seminar marathon than any sort of rational, psychiatric credentials.

My resounding thought on the core message of the book - God created you and the universe, so why is His soul purpose now to help you with your trading decisions? I think He got grossly demoted in this book!

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 14/11/2014

Trading Beyond the Matrix should be considered the

Any additional comments?


If you are not familiar with Dr. Tharp he has been coaching professional traders since the early 1980's. Read Market Wizards, which has a chapter dedicated to Dr. Tharp, and you will get an idea of the caliber of talent he has coached, mentored, and developed over the years.

Dr. Tharp has created a program, which he calls his Super Trader program, where he has aggregated all of his work with top traders and created a course for others to follow. A modeler of peak performance in the trading arena Dr. Tharp lays out all of the lessons required of his Super Traders before their graduation in this book. The cost of the Super Trader program ranges between $60,000-$90,000 according to their site and they claim you are receiving $120,000 worth of instruction for that price.

The book, which is a great read for entertainment alone, is really an outline of the entire Super Trader program for a fraction of the cost. The book covers topics ranging from personal psychology and self development to trading strategies, expectancy, and position sizing (all of which are crucial to success).

The book outlines his Super Trader's journeys and how they master his concepts. Dr. Tharp weighs in throughout the book but you get a perspective of how and why each of the concepts are important through the trader's eyes. The traders range from male to female, spiritual inclined to type-a personalities. This offers wide ranging insight into the truth Dr. Tharp is trying to convey within the book.

I would recommend this book to anyone regardless of their level within the trading community. If follow any, let alone all, of the the lessons in this book you will see improvement in your trading. That has been the case for myself and I believe that will be true for others.

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  • Jens Pflüger
  • 05/04/2016

Hours of advertising and spiritual nonsense

Given the 12+ hours I expected to learn a lot from this book. Unfortunately, I ended up listening to countless hours of useless and even annoying nonsense. This book is another really bad example of someone advertising his seminar program to make money. The first 3-4 hours are about a few individuals who participated in the author's trading program explaining how awesome it is and how it helped them to become rich. This has nothing to do with serious trading. It's so annoying. Just when I thought this couldn't get any worse, the story takes it to a whole new level when it starts to talk about religion and how God can help make money in the markets. I found myself listening to spiritual sessions where people talked to God through some 3rd person receiving trading advice. I mean, seriously? I personally consider trading to be a professional occupation that requires systematic approaches, methodology, techniques and lots of hands-on training. There are good books that actually teach you how to develop skills. Not this one. Save your money and your time. I'm so angry that authors get away by talking people into an expensive trading program and basically selling them the hope that a seminar is the one solution to excel and become rich conveniently.

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  • Rick
  • 12/09/2019

Mostly a marketing pitch and self praise.

I started listening due to a recommendation on instagram by someone I respect highly. Listend to 4 of the 12 hours. Even with the very few interesting thoughts and ideas listed the book is not worth a purchase or a listen. Every few sentences Van Tharps books are recommended as life changing, his "Super Trader Program" - yes thats the name, like from a comic book, or his great Tharp Think concept is being held high. Not very much information is being shared. It could be an somewhat insightful book when reduced to 2hours and freed from all the clutter and distortion. "Life is too short to finish a terrible book" - Thus I won't finish it.

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