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The Dark Forest

The Three-Body Problem, Book 2
De : Cixin Liu
Lu par : Bruno Roubicek
Série : Three Body, Volume 2
Durée : 23 h et 4 min
4.5 out of 5 stars (18 notations)

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Description

The Trisolarian fleet has left their home world and will arrive in four centuries' time. But the Sophons and their extradimensional emissaries are already here. This is the motivation for the Wallfacer Project, a last-ditch defence that grants four individuals almost absolute power to design secret strategies, hidden through deceit and misdirection.

Luo Ji, an unambitious Chinese astronomer, is baffled by his new status. All he knows is that he's the one Wallfacer that Trisolaris wants dead.

©2008 Cixin Liu (P)2016 W F Howes Ltd

Critiques

"A milestone in Chinese science fiction." ( New York Times)
"The best kind of science fiction." (Kim Stanley Robinson)

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Fantastic book !

Fantastic book ! Can't wait for the next one. very technical and the story is still mysterical. very different from the first book of the trilogy as well.

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  • Æ Mann
  • 20/11/2017

A gem

This is the kind of book you always hope for when you open up that first page. This was the book I never knew I needed. A classic outside of the western culture bubble where I usually find my reading material. I was so glad that I had the opportunity to read this. This was a rarity. Exceptionally clever, thrilling, a single book exploding with enough ideas and ambition to rival even the longest fantasy series out there.

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  • vlo
  • 10/02/2017

Forces you to reflect

A great piece of work that forces you to reflect about humanity, science, space and all of it.

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  • Utilisateur anonyme
  • 09/11/2019

Intriguing

I will never look at the stars the same way again. Very detailed story indeed.

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  • Evan Lum
  • 05/11/2019

Truly Fantastic!

listen to it. read it. the scope only grows with each passing chapter. An amazing book.

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  • Utilisateur anonyme
  • 17/06/2019

It's not bad

A bit unrealistic within the constraints set up, a little inconsistent, but mostly enjoyable. The author seems to aim for a somewhat sociorealistic feel, which somewhat falls apart with characters that can be a bit flat. There's a bit of zeerust to the novel too, even if you obey the premise setup in the first novel, but that's somewhat to be expected.

Depending on how much sci-fi you've read, you might find this much more enjoyable than I did.

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  • Florian H.
  • 15/06/2019

What am amazing story... great narrator too

Some parts of the early chapters felt long and not that interesting but overall it was simply a really amazing experience to have this entire reading. So thankful for to Liu Cixin the book and can just absolutely recommend. Narratornis also great.

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  • Andrey
  • 09/04/2019

Great story and a lot of deep thoughts

I really enjoyed this second part of the trilogy, it is continuing to keep me captivated and the author's view of the universe is very thoughtful and unorthodox. The narrator's performance is quite good, too.

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  • Martin Bolbroe
  • 18/08/2018

Pure Genius

I just love the way interplanetary disputes are handled by a genius mind. A long story but wait for it.

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  • Sik
  • 18/07/2018

It starts slow, but has an epic ending

It's worth the time. At many points early in the book it feels really slow, but once it picks up pace is nice.

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  • Chin
  • 20/10/2017

An epic which reflects the humanity

Liu Cixin has a theory on cosmic-sociology, which cover military, history, economy and technology, and may be the greatest threat to humanity.

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  • Tenno
  • 21/02/2017

Anders, aber sehr gut!

Etwas irritierend ist zu Beginn, dass die Personen andere sind, als im ersten Teil, was durch die zunächst nur schwer unterscheidbaren chinesischen Namen nicht einfacher wird, und dass die Handlung nicht mehr in der jüngeren Vergangenheit und Gegenwart stattfindet, sondern in einer immer ferneren Zukunft. Nach ein wenig Reinhören wird es aber richtig spannend, auch weil die vielen aufgeworfenen philosophisch-existentiellen Fragen fesseln!

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  • Robert Klings
  • 07/02/2017

Epic

Beautifully narrated! Lots of food for thought! Just difficult to keep track of all the Chinese names.

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  • Amazon Kunde
  • 01/06/2017

Great

Started off slowly and turned out to be a worthy sequel. Quite philosophical and ruminous.

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  • Konstantinos
  • 04/03/2019

An amazing philosophical treatise hidden in a nove

The narration is good. The different accents was the only thing that made remembering who is who possible.

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  • Utilisateur anonyme
  • 08/06/2018

Ein tolles Erlebnis, jederzeit wieder

Die Geschichte des Buches ist insgesamt toll. Auf die Details der darin beschriebenen Entwicklung der Menschheit gehe ich nicht ein, da die unvorhersehbaren, jedoch sinnvollen Wendungen dieser Entwicklung für mich den großen Reiz dieses Werkes ausmachen. Für Menschen, die Faszination für die Zukunft der Menschheit, Ethik, Physik und Technischen Fortschritt haben, ist dieser Roman ein tolles und ungewöhnliches Abenteuer sein.

Der Sprecher macht seinen Job sehr gut. Ich gebe ihm jedoch nicht alle 5 Sterne, da seine Intonation stellenweise zu stark mit meiner Interpretation der Emotionen in den Gesprächen in Kontrast steht.

Ich freue mich sehr auf den nächsten Teil der Geschichte und spreche eine große Empfehlung aus.

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  • run4avi
  • 08/05/2018

great story with a very thoughtful ending.

exceptionally well thought out story with an ending that left me appreciative of the author. one of the better books I have read in a while.

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  • Steffen Wolf
  • 12/01/2018

Surprising, twisting, playing with expectations

This novel is simply great. The author brings in concepts from classical Chinese literature, and is seriously playing with your expectations. The book sometimes seems a bit lengthy, and there are several serious "WTF???" moments that seem like deus-ex-machina cheats. But: in the end, everything is resolved, and is completely logical. If you like films from Christopher Nolan, then you'll be amazed by this book.

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 04/01/2018

Even better than the first Book

It gets better and better. Looking forward to the next book. Awesome listen/read. Recomedation.

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  • T. Voigt
  • 23/10/2017

Hervorragendes Hörbuch!

Der zweite Teil der Reihe ist genau wie der erste vollgepackt mit viel Science.
Hier wird richtig was zum nachdenken geboten: etliche äußerst interessante Konzepte sind in der Geschichte eingebettet und werden bis ins Detail beleuchtet.

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  • Kunde
  • 30/10/2017

The stupidity will blow your mind

This book offers an interesting story and promises great difficult challenges and creative solutions to them. But it only delivers part of that.
And the worst thing is that at some part in the story, you are presented with that VERY obvious trap that you see coming for ages and nobody in the book seems to care about... it might drive you mad. I've never felt that much disrespect from any author... does he really thing that even a small part of the readers didn't see that blatant plot twist coming for miles? Details in the spoiler-section below.
If you don't mind that, the book is an interesting read, but please don't say that you hadn't been warned.


***STORY SPOILERS BELOW***

***STORY SPOILERS BELOW***



The problem for me is that some of the time-steps in the story leave you puzzled. Before this one major timestep, everything seems to be in control. Jump 180 years into the future, and suddenly everyone seems to have gone totally mad. The frightening enemy that's hundreds of years ahead of you technologically (without any chance of closing that gap) is on course to invading earth... but suddenly, everyone is so convinced that defeating them is only a trivial matter. The "new" earthlings are already celebrating their victory against that still totally unknown and mysterious invader that they hardly know anything about. They are shedding tears of joy and walk into this VERY VERY obvious trap. The whole process takes about 50 pages (which feel more like 300 pages), and everyone is celebrating while you can't stop banging your head against the wall in disbelieve. How stupid does the author think we are? I can hardly think of anyone that would not have called that one out. And the characters in the book just turn stupid, all at the same time, and walk into the trap. There aren't even doubts or anything that might make you get back your faith in the story.
Afterwards, they have long philosophical discussions that show how everyone know for hundreds of years that peace with an unknown race is highly improbably, just to rub it into your face.

I'm not sure what other obvious plot-twists the author will force onto me in the future, but this one has been the worst I have read in a few hundred books over the last 20 years. And let me tell you, I have encountered a few books with very stupid writing.

It was VERY difficult to get through that part of the book, and if I hadn't already bought the third book of the trilogy I'd have stopped right there.
I certainly won't buy another book from this author, I haven't felt so stupid for a long time.

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